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re: Trump: on Iran "Two very simple words, unconditional surrender."

Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Most of us are former military members and could frick you up without second thought.


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Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1979 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:14 pm to
So freedom of speech applies to people in Iran? Didn't know our constitution applied to other countries. So since they never directly attacked us we should be ok with them funding and supplying terrorist groups that have attacked us and our interests in the region, and allowing them to further develop the capabilities it takes to create a nuclear weapon? And the reason they hate us has nothing to do with us treating them like shite.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4168 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Good thing the deep state never lies to us...



They nailed Sadam having WMDs though.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:21 pm to
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Isolationism is a retarded fantasy


What's retarded is the fact that you believe not going around and attacking countries around the world is isolationism. Screw free tree, cooperation in solving bigger issues and everything else that can happen among countries, all that matters is if you support aggressive wars in foreign nations you don't like.

Pick up a dictionary.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9813 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:24 pm to
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When a foreign state threatens the US, I expect the US to take action


China released Covid to the world and we didn't do shite about frick.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:29 pm to
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So freedom of speech applies to people in Iran? Didn't know our constitution applied to other countries. So since they never directly attacked us we should be ok with them funding and supplying terrorist groups that have attacked us and our interests in the region, and allowing them to further develop the capabilities it takes to create a nuclear weapon? And the reason they hate us has nothing to do with us treating them like shite.


Your rights are God given, as such those rights extend to ALL HUMANS, including people who live in Iran. If you think you get your rights from government, then you need to take a basic civics class. The function of the 1st amendment is to give congress the power to prevent lower authorities from taking away free speech, and to not make laws - because it is a God given right. The only thing government can do is take away your rights or protect them, it can not grant them.

So what you want to do is take away the God given rights of other people. And not only take away those rights, you want to murder them for it. If you think these are the type of actions that are inline with God, then you are a fool because you are directly told to do the opposite. You break commandment after commandment but pretend you are innocent because you do it via government.

And if you want to count countries giving money and supporting terrorist organizations, the US is the #1 contributor in the world. All these organizations you hate were actually started and/or funded by our own intelligence agencies for years to carry out attacks and so forth on other nations.

We aren't the good guys you think we are. We overthrow democracies and turn country after country into shite holes. They don't just randomly hate us, we've been oppressing them by the same methods you accuse them of for nearly a century now.

You support that shite, but I am not that fool.



This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1979 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:35 pm to
So by your logic countries should be able to openly threaten the US all because they have a God given right to say whatever the hell they want? So at what point do you believe we should respond to those threats? Only after they have been carried out. Yea they told us they wanted to blow our shite up but we didn't want to attack them cause they have the right to say that. Also Iran hates us because their religion tells them too. Destroy the infidels and receive the great reward. That's why they hate us.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31165 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:38 pm to
As I’ve asked in the other thread, what does that mean? Surrender to the US? If so does that mean we are at war? Or to Israel? Does it mean regime change or just an end to hostilities and no nuke program?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:47 pm to
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So by your logic countries should be able to openly threaten the US all because they have a God given right to say whatever the hell they want? So at what point do you believe we should respond to those threats? Only after they have been carried out. Yea they told us they wanted to blow our shite up but we didn't want to attack them cause they have the right to say that. Also Iran hates us because their religion tells them too. Destroy the infidels and receive the great reward. That's why they hate us.


Remember the time Iran told everyone in New York to evacuate because an incoming attack was coming?

Good times.

People in the US like you are actively calling for their destruction. We've taken out 6 countries in the region over the past 20 years, all of them worse off for it.

You are yourself basically guilty of every bad thing you claim about them.

If you didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any at all. In reality, you're the justification for each other because you refuse to apply your own standards equally and see your own errors for what they are.

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1979 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:52 pm to
I see you are using deflection to avoid my question. So let's try again. If everyone has the God given right to say whatever the hell they want and threaten the US with destruction at which point should the US respond to these threats?
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
27517 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:56 pm to
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When did the Tucker Carlson fan club trade jeans for skirts?



Cucker's always been light in the loafers.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4681 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 12:59 pm to
Very true. Fauci and Biden protected China from any investigations or justice

Now we have the "libertarian" wing protecting all of the axis of evil countries

Just look at these goobers

Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
1844 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
Iran is all turban and no camel.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Cafe 80's FTW.



Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:03 pm to
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I see you are using deflection to avoid my question. So let's try again. If everyone has the God given right to say whatever the hell they want and threaten the US with destruction at which point should the US respond to these threats?


I didn't deflect anything. I debunked all your justifications for preemptive war, which is never justified.

A wise king does not start a war, but he is always ready for it.
Posted by Alabama Slim
Team Massie
Member since Jul 2007
10655 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Trump: on Iran


Good thing you specified. When trump put out the unconditional surrender tweet I thought he was surrendering to Israel.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
27517 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:07 pm to
Tbh, I never liked this fake MF especially not when I was in the USMC.

Dude was not even on active duty when wearing his uniform. Was CIA 100%. He's also a fake evangelical.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
27517 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:08 pm to
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A wise king does not start a war, but he is always ready for it.



Plenty of wise leaders who have taken advantage of opportunities presented to them. Even in the Bible.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48265 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:10 pm to
Iran does not want a completely united United States of America, and nuking the American homeland is a great way to do that.

They’d be retarded to nuke us.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4681 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:14 pm to
It wouldnt be Iran directly. It would be a member of Hezbollah, or a Houthi etc bringing a dirty bomb into an American city
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