re: Trump on Healthcare: "Who Knew?"

If Trump thinks healthcare is complicated, wait until he starts getting into the details on education and foreign policy.

It is difficult when you are trying to do something other than gouge people and you actually care about doing what you say

Gems are not burdened with that

Your AARP link is not backed up with sources for the most part. It's an opinion piece.

I didn't click the other link since you used poor judgement.

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Have you actually looked at the data behind this, or are you just trotting out the general narrative that gets brought up ad naseum whenever a single player system is mentioned?

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You must be new here. Trumpkins don't do facts or data, they're not MAGA.

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Under single payor, physician compensation would probably be halved (or somewhere in that neighborhood).

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Link?

Trump has stated his support for universal health care numerous times on the record.

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As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland.-

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“A friend of mine was in Scotland recently. He got very, very sick. They took him by ambulance and he was there for four days. He was really in trouble, and they released him and he said, ‘Where do I pay?’ And they said, ‘There’s no charge.’ Not only that, he said it was like great doctors, great care. I mean we could have a great system in this country.”

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the government's gonna pay for it (health care). But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

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Trump sounds wishy-washy as hell because he wants single payer or public option but he knows he would get destroyed by a lot of conservatives if he tries to pass something similar to the "great health care system they have in Scotland."

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"We have come up with a solution that's really, really – I think – very good. Now I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject. Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

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Being President is hard, y'all.

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boogieman of huge wait times associated with single payer systems are overblown.

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Negative.

Wait times are not some mystical datapoint.
They are resource driven.

"Cost savings" via single payer come vis-a-vis the payer monopoly. Single payer economics are no longer a matter of "what the market will bear." Rather it is a sole matter of what the monopoly decides to pay. In the case of healthcare, the situation reverts to what providers and facilities are willing to bear.

The concomitant cost of provider and facility willingness to accept such randomly determined payer remuneration is passed on to the consumer. That "cost" is measured in diminished availability, decreased quality, and increased wait times.

Given the uniquely adversarial, inefficient tort system US single payer would overlay, those consumer "costs" would escalate quickly.

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Keep pretending we all don't know he talks in that stream of consciousness style.

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Keep pretending that excuses him from all of the dumb shite that he says.

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They must be just cock blocking him. I've read his proposal and it makes too much sense. The problem is it's too consumer driven for Washington's career politicians.

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No.
They are treading water awaiting Trump's proposal. That way they gain some degree of political cover when problems arise. My educated guess is Trump's proposal (Dr.Price's proposal) will look a lot like Paul's