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re: Trump on Healthcare: "Who Knew?"

Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:44 am to
They'd rather have a pro America guy with great instincts that wings it in his speech than a Marxist um robot .
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:46 am to
You want to know why I ended up voting for Trump?




Posted by Yak
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:47 am to
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a pro America guy with great instincts
has yet to be seen
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:48 am to
People can hate on trump all they want but everyone has to agree that he has made the most entertaining presidency ever
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:51 am to
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So complex that we actually had to pass it before we could see what was in it. Like some Davinci code type shite


This. And now those who did this, along with their supporters, can sit back and criticize those who are going to have to fix it with impunity.

It really is a disgusting spectacle to watch, but then again, this is the MO of today's Democrat Party.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:05 am to
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What he means ... Republican lobbyists and donors make billions from Obama care and we don't want to stop the gravy train.


Since Trump doesn't owe a lobbyist or donor a fricking thing, and is a billionaire with or without Obamacare, I believe he absolutely wants to stop the gravy train. Also, while I agree 100% Republican lobbyists & donors benefit from the law, so do Democrat lobbyists and donors. That is what we refer to as "The Swamp".

This law/tax/redistribution or wealth known as Obamacare is the issue that Trump was elected to replace. It will by far be the most difficult due to the swamp. If he cannot get it done, it tells me the globalist faction of our country is far too powerful and that we are lost. I hope I am wrong. Globalization by coercion will never ever work.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 11:06 am
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:09 am to
It shouldn't be complicated. Like anything else, it's a service available to people. You get the service, then pay for it. The quality of service depends on how much money you have or the insurance you can afford.

The idea that healthcare is a right is preposterous.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:16 am to
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Fore, if nothing else, the people elected a president who was their only alternative to HRC.


no doubt that was a good portion of his vote



Proud member of that club.

The Rs in congress have really had their hypocrisy exposed here. They kept sending repeal bills to Obama that they knew would be vetoed. Now that the blood will be on their hands they are scared to do anything.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:16 am to
So many deflections, so little time.

Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:17 am to
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The Rs in congress have really had their hypocrisy exposed here. They kept sending repeal bills to Obama that they knew would be vetoed. Now that the blood will be on their hands they are scared to do anything.


I haven't dug into it, but I guess Rand Paul's bill is either shite or they're just ignoring him.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:19 am to
Yeah, how do you pay for free healthcare to people who don't work, are used to having everything given too them, and yet make it cheap for everyone? Its impossible! Which is why medicare and Medicaid were such a bad ideas. I know everyone wants free stuff, but its so damn expensive....and even harder to roll back when people are hooked...
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:19 am to
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It will by far be the most difficult due to the swamp. If he cannot get it done, it tells me the globalist faction of our country is far too powerful and that we are lost.


If Trump can't repeal and replace it will be because the globalist faction is far too powerful?
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:21 am to
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The idea that healthcare is a right is preposterous.


Taxes are a little complicated especially when they are pushed through as not being a tax.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:23 am to
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So many deflections, so little time.


Patience, it will be a very, very great plan. They're already saying it will be the best plan ever implemented.
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:24 am to
I think what he meant to say was "Who knew Obamacare was such a clusterfrick to undo."
Posted by Socratics
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:27 am to
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I haven't dug into it, but I guess Rand Paul's bill is either shite or they're just ignoring him.


The GOP in general ignore Rand Paul. The Gop would rather keep Obamacare rather than do anything he says.
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:27 am to
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It shouldn't be complicated. Like anything else, it's a service available to people. You get the service, then pay for it. The quality of service depends on how much money you have or the insurance you can afford.

The idea that healthcare is a right is preposterous.



The idea of healthcare being a right is debatable but as a society we've decided that people shouldn't die of a disease or injury because they lack the ability to pay. You may not agree but if you don't you are a tiny minority of the gen pop and your complaining will change nothing. That ship has sailed.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:27 am to
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Blame that on Pelosi for her stupid remark about Obocare.

This "who knew" statement is right up there with Pelosi's pass it/read it in terms of stupidity.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:29 am to
Around here, this was the only thing.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:35 am to
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This "who knew" statement is right up there with Pelosi's pass it/read it in terms of stupidity.


No, cause one was basically "We in the Gov't are smarter than you, and know what's best for you", knowing it was all based on lies...You weren't going to keep your Doctor, you weren't going to keep your plans, and you weren't going to save $2500 dollars on average. One was a whole bunch of lies wrapped up in one statement...One is the truth, and I let you figure that out...Its hard to unravel this web of lies and promises, and I don't think anyone trying understands the real costs of pulling care away from someone, and its consequences. I agree he should have known, and its a dumb statement when you really think about it, but its more understandable that the outright lies that were used to pass this piece of crap legislation...
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