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re: Trump on familys angry he’s hosting Saudi LIV tour “Nobody’s gotten to the bottom of 9/11”

Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:41 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:41 pm to
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The money printing has been a problem but the fed is now pursuing quantitative tightening


Money printing IS the problem you clueless simp. It is wishful thinking to believe that by simply adjusting the money printing levers, the Fed will magically fix things.

QT promises to provide a course correction for the disequilibrium in financial markets brought about by QE. Yet QT will upend a market that has grown dependent upon easy credit to finance operations and the debt leveraged positions of Wall Street.

Couple this with a market already roiled by lockdowns, supply chain issues, commodity and labor shortages, elevated shipping costs, etc… and it is obvious that a true course correction will not come from the Fed tweaking their money-printing policies.

What is the next remedy if QT fails: another round of QE? It is turtles all the way down.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:48 pm to
This is the thread where all the hard core conservatives suddenly become 9/11 truthers and suddenly start to love them some Muslims.

You people are whores.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:50 pm to
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I pretty confident I can get the evidence for this from my old engineering materials textbook…if the fire was hot enough to burn the steel it would become a class 4 fire at which point water is like throwing gasoline on a fire because the heat is so great it separates hydrogen from oxygen and feeds the fire with a gaseous fuel. I don’t remember the combustion temperature of steel off the top of my head but I can see where a ball of jet fuel can burn hot enough to combust steel and cause an out of control reaction.


Can’t happen without sufficient oxygen (thus oxy-acetylene torch to cut steel). Would be very difficult to occur under normal atmospheric conditions. But there is one material that has its own oxygen supply, can ignite with fossil fuel burning and burns at a temperature approaching 4000 degree F (steel melts around 2800 F) and leaves very little trace after ignition when among steel.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:55 pm to
And just like that he’s turned all of lapdogs into 9/11 Truthers who think the US government was involved from the get go and that some of those buildings were blown up by secret demolition crews etc. And they’ll remain it till the day they die even though an hour ago no doubt they ridiculed people like that.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:59 pm to
All he has to say is this,
"President Biden went to SA to beg for more oil production from the Saudi's. This is after he cancels leases the second he gets into office and makes the US dependent on SA for oil.
So is it OK with those protestors that the current president is begging SA for oil and that our money will line their pockets. Is it ok with those protestors that their money they spend on gas is going to SA?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:03 pm to
Most of the the jet fuel burned out in the explosion
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:19 pm to
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You people are whores.


We all are wHoRes as long as our nation remains dependent upon the money-printing scheme propped up by the PetroDollar Pact with the incestuous whoremongers known as the House of Saud.


Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:31 pm to
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And just like that he’s turned all of lapdogs into 9/11 Truthers who think the US government was involved from the get go and that some of those buildings were blown up by secret demolition crews etc. And they’ll remain it till the day they die even though an hour ago no doubt they ridiculed people like that.


I am absolutely convinced that “9/11 Truther” debates — such as we see in this thread — are in reality gaslighting campaigns by shills who seek to discredit and shutdown all criticism of the government’s official 9/11 inquiry. Gnome’s post — whether unwittingly or not — provides an example.

Same as with the Kennedy assassination, we may never know the who, the whats or the whys of the 9/11 terror plot. What we do know is that our nation’s intelligence apparatus will lie, stonewall and even disseminate false information to protect it’s power.

Same as with the Warren Commission, the official 9/11 investigation was purposely formulated to protect the wholly corrupted interests of the Deep State above all other concerns. Like any such government investigation, it was stacked with Deep State loyalists whose conclusions were preordained.

The head of the “official” 9/11 inquiry was Philip D. Zelikow, a career Deep State toady. Before 9/11, Zelikow, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, was a key architect in promoting the War On Terror®: Catastrophic Terrorism: Tackling the New Danger….

Predictably, Zelikow has now been appointed to conduct a “bipartisan” Congressional investigation into the origins of the COVID-1984 virus. This COVID-1984 investigation will no doubt be one lie stacked upon another.

The official 9/11 investigation was akin to asking a Mafia consigliere to investigate the Mob. Same as it ever was.

This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Is dumb shite like this that’s going to frick him over:


The Us Government at minimum and at best knew about and happily allowed 9/11 to happen and then capitalized on it in more ways than one.

The hyper-vast majority of this country’s current problems can be traced back to 9/11/01
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 7:44 pm to
Trump is the best President of our lifetimes and he has said so many things that would supposedly "frick him over". Trump will be fine.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:13 pm to
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The hyper-vast majority of this country’s current problems can be traced back to 9/11/01


Bingo.

Notice that any discussion about 9/11 on any open forum such as this invariably degenerates into debates over cgi, the compressors on turbofan engines or the melting point of steel.

All such diversions direct the conversation away from topics such as this:

Robert Mueller was the biggest obstacle for Sept. 11 families who wanted to sue Saudi Arabia….

There is your conspiracy.

Again, this is a well rehearsed, deliberate and orchestrated stratagem to deflect from the documented coverup that occurred AFTER 9/11:

What Was In The Redacted 28 Pages?



Prince Bandar

Bandar is the highest Saudi government official mentioned in the 28 Pages document. While at the time of the 9/11 attacks he was the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, his position in the Saudi Royal Family is much higher.

Bandar bin Sultan first came to public attention in Craig Unger's seminal work LINK ] House of Bush, House of Saud. Bandar was so close with the Bush family, that Barbara Bush dubbed him "Bandar Bush."

Unlike ambassadorships appointed in the US – which are strictly political or token gestures – Bandar’s background is much more complex and strategic.

Within the Saudi Royal Family, which is also the Saudi Government, there exists a family faction that is more powerful then the larger family. This group is called the Sudari Seven, which is made up of seven full brothers fathered by the Saudi Kingdom’s founding monarch and his favorite wife Hussa. The Sudari Seven are the full brothers who, along with their sons and grandsons, control the key posts in the Saudi Government, including the throne. Prince Sultan is one of the Sudari Seven and he is also the father of Prince Bandar.

Sultan was head of the Ministry of Defense and Aviation and later became Crown Prince – second to the throne – in 2005. Some of the Saudi nationals mentioned in the 28 Pages appear to be receiving funding directly through the Ministry of Defense or through its front companies.

Father and son (Sultan and Bandar) both held key positions in the Saudi Government at the same time and received promotions at the same time. It is valid to ask if Sultan knew what Bandar was doing and if Bandar knew what Sultan was doing. Since they are father and son, one would assume they likely knew. On the other hand, as they held different government positions with specific channels of intelligence flow, their mutual knowledge about these key events remains unclear.

From 1983 – 2005, Bandar served as the Saudi Ambassador to the United States. In this position, he reported directly to the King. In 2005, he was promoted to head of GID (Saudi Intelligence, like the CIA). This is the same year that his father, Prince Sultan, becomes Crown Prince.

The 28 Pages strongly implicate Bandar and his wife (his half cousin) in funding Saudi nationals who provided support for the 9/11 hijackers. While the 28 page document does not implicate Bandar in any direct contact or support for the hijackers themselves, it does show that without Bandar’s assistance to certain other Saudi nationals, the hijackers could not have completed their mission.

Bandar was also the person who organized the now infamous departure of all Saudi nationals in the US within days of 9/11, including members of the bin Laden family….


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:17 pm to
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cuck litmus test


This is what you are knowledgeable about?

That’s a weird flex, but...

Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:18 pm to
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Money printing IS the problem


I like how you zoom in on one issue where I say it’s a problem.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:31 pm to
My favorite part of this thing was when they found one of the hijackers’ passports in the dust and rubble. That was awesome work and proved without a doubt who was responsible. No need to consider anything else.

My second favorite part of this thing was when the VP, I believe his name was Cheney, disappeared for two weeks for safety reasons, but the Prez was out in public constantly.

My third favorite thing was when someone named Joe Biden said in an interview the day after the WTC disaster, that we’d better be prepared for an anthrax attack. Lo and behold two weeks later, we got our anthrax attacks.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:54 pm to
“We never got to the bottom of 9/11”

Not the best choice of words. Maybe he should have focused on the great golf tournament coming up and how much the tournament has donated to local charities.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:32 pm to
You are a special kind of stupid to believe thousands of died and their families covered it up in the process. Yeah that sounds plausible and they have all kept quite since they began planning it over 25 years ago? Did the FBI also blow the 60 foot hole in the parking garage of the World Trade Center in 1993? Some of you will believe absolutely anything lol
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:34 pm to
Huge difference between that and the buildings being brought down by a controlled demolition
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 9:41 pm to
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I like how you zoom in on one issue where I say it’s a problem.


And I like how you constantly white-knight for establishment talking points that are logically inconsistent.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/28/22 at 10:13 pm to
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And I like how you constantly white-knight for establishment talking points that are logically inconsistent.


What does this even mean? Can you elucidate?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 7:02 am to
Steel doesn't have to come close to melting to catastrophically fail, look at a pressure temperature chart for steel pipe flanges. And I've seen trailer house fire melt GLASS
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