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Trump May Be The Most Fiscally Reckless President In American History

Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:20 pm
From Forbes:

quote:

All of this makes it quite easy to confirm that, less than 18 months into his administration, Donald Trump is the most fiscally irresponsible president at least in recent American history…and quite possibly of all time.
Trump’s behavior on everything and anything having to do with the federal budget has become blatantly predictable and painfully obvious. It always includes some combination of:

1. Proposing whatever he wants on revenues and spending regardless of whether it is the right policy for the economy.

2. Making up his own rules of economics, mathematics and budgeting to justify what’s being proposed and make them politically palatable.

3. Discrediting the facts when they get in the way of what he wants to do and demeaning those that produce them.

4. Ignoring reality when what actually happens turns out very different from what he swore would occur.

5. Paying no attention whatsoever to the budget deficit and national debt.
Trump’s big tax cut demonstrates every ingredient of this witches’ brew.
First, the bill’s $1.5 trillion revenue loss, debt increase and stimulus was the absolute wrong fiscal policy with the economy so strong.
Second, no amount of Trump insistence and bullying about dynamic scoring was going to make that tax cut revenue neutral.
Third, even when they came from Republican-led groups like the Joint Economic Committee, nonpartisan groups like the Congressional Budget Office and Wall Street, the analyses (and those that did them) showing Trump to be wrong were trashed by the White House.

Fourth, now that the tax cut has been enacted, Trump doesn’t seem to care that his promise of a deficit-neutral bill was flat out wrong even though it will cause the budget deficit to reach record heights in good economic times.



Full article for those interested:
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This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:21 pm to
Melt Bitch
Posted by Tony Tiger89
EVERYWHERE
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:22 pm to
he isnt the most fiscally reckless of him or the last president.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
17428 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:22 pm to
Been a bad couple years for you guys and you got six more to go. Sucks to be you
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59214 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:22 pm to
Trump had already bankrupted his own businesses so he decided to up his game and bankrupt the biggest business of them all, America
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14815 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Trump May Be The Most Fiscally Reckless President In American History


Obama more then doubled the national debt in 8 years that took 200+ the get to in the first place....


Author loses all credibility right off the bat
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74210 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:24 pm to
The tax cut is not even close to the main factor in why the deficit rose in 2018

The vast majority of the increase came from spending increases favored by both dems and reps in congress
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:25 pm to
We could eliminate the debt completely if we didn't have to support all of your cousins, Gaucho.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Full article for those interested:


quote:

Trump’s big tax cut demonstrates every ingredient of this witches’ brew. First, the bill’s $1.5 trillion revenue loss



Why would I read a full article when you quoted this part. What idiot thinks any Americans money belongs to the government. They are so brainwashed it's dangerous.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74210 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:26 pm to
Btw, this is an opinion piece from May of this year

It isn’t a Forbes editorial board position
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:27 pm to
I just posted the article for the responses.

Once thing that is prety much true is that trump is on pace to add more to the national debt than Obama did, assuming he gets elected again.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 2:29 pm
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:28 pm to
I know, I posted for shits and giggles.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31531 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:28 pm to
Party of the fiscally responsible my arse
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9957 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:29 pm to
It’s cool, we’ll just declare bankruptcy. Trump is a master at it.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53541 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:30 pm to
I was a fan of the tax cuts but he should have made big spending cuts too. Big mistake imo
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74210 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:31 pm to
It has been known for YEARS that the deficit was set to begin increasing again in 2016 and 2017

CBO projections from back in 2011 showed this

SS, Medicare, and interest payments on the debt were going to kick into high gear at this time
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Btw, this is an opinion piece from May of this year

It isn’t a Forbes editorial board position



That is just a tactic. Make it an OP so you can say outlandish things then you don't have to take any flack over it. SOP for those sorry asshats.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95664 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:36 pm to
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1. Proposing whatever he wants on revenues and spending regardless of whether it is the right policy for the economy.


Obama

quote:

2. Making up his own rules of economics, mathematics and budgeting to justify what’s being proposed and make them politically palatable.


Obama

quote:

3. Discrediting the facts when they get in the way of what he wants to do and demeaning those that produce them.


Obama

quote:

4. Ignoring reality when what actually happens turns out very different from what he swore would occur.


Obama

quote:

5. Paying no attention whatsoever to the budget deficit and national debt


Obama

So, are they recycling a story they wrote about Obama, or are they that partisan? I mean, I thought of Forbes as generally left-leaning, but middle-of-the road.

That's NYT/WAPO/CNN level horseshite right there.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42151 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 2:41 pm to
Talk about reducing the military budget and Republicans and centrist Democrats cry foul and theorize we'll be invaded by the foreign hordes.

Talk about reducing the welfare state and Democrats and liberal Republicans fearmonger and act as if there will be bodies in the street.

Americans are by and large an idiotic and unreasonable people. They want lower taxes but more government services. They want less spending but don't mind supporting wars in half a dozen countries. We will never pay off the debt, or even come close to it, given the voting patterns of our current population.
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