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re: Trump may be in more trouble than people think he is

Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:14 am to
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 4:14 am to
Yes. Michael Cohen is the most trustworthy individual on the face of the Earth. You’ve got to trust me on this…
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62488 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:51 am to
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It's the federal case that Trump has to worry about.


What "federal case?" Are you talking about the classified documents bullshite?
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 5:52 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:53 am to
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Federal prosecutors already declined to prosecute Trump which is why they turned to this stooge; federal laws trump state laws when it comes to campaign finance so you are incorrect


...there's a special prosecutor out there right now targeting Trump for the documents at Mar A Lago. That's the federal case in play.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:56 am to
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What "federal case?" Are you talking about the classified documents bullshite?


Yeah. Like it or not, the feds will have a strong case against Trump on that one, and let's not pretend they will play fair. This is a major, major issue for him.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62488 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:57 am to
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Yeah. Like it or not, the feds will have a strong case against Trump on that one, and let's not pretend they will play fair. This is a major, major issue for him.



No they don't. No it's not.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5675 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 5:59 am to
You keep saying “statement of facts” as if that it’s exactly what they are. “It’s in the statement of facts” is one of the dumber phrases to date. There is zero chance you voted for Trump once not to mention twice
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16993 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:00 am to
Gonna be hard to assess payments went directly for a shady deal. That said it doesn’t legally matter Because it wasn’t illegal campaign finance law broken and the nda affects his business reputation as well as personal ( because of any embarrassment it may cause)
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5675 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:02 am to
You got it right about the fair part no doubt
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30530 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:26 am to
All of the charges boil down to fraud, which is not good.

Even if the man skates, it's terrible for his public image. For a former president whose credibility is already so low as a result of years of compulsive lying, this is coup de grace for his campaign. What kind of campaign will his "army" be able to mount when it'll be constantly fending off attack ads?

No chance whatsoever to get his message out, and whatever the Trump plan may be to fix the economy, reestablish law and order, fix immigration, and restore respect internationally, is DOA.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 6:28 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:26 am to
My hope - other than him being elected in 2024 is that he literally sucks the financial life force out of NYC making them fight this.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15416 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 6:49 am to
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All of the charges boil down to fraud, which is not good. Even if the man skates, it's terrible for his public image. For a former president whose credibility is already so low as a result of years of compulsive lying, this is coup de grace for his campaign. What kind of campaign will his "army" be able to mount when it'll be constantly fending off attack ads? No chance whatsoever to get his message out, and whatever the Trump plan may be to fix the economy, reestablish law and order, fix immigration, and restore respect internationally, is DOA.


You do realize that this is the entire reason they’ve relentlessly attacked the man for seven years, right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135339 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 7:13 am to
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All of the charges boil down to fraud, which is not good.
Correct.
Fat Alvin is a fraud.
The charges are a fraud.

Yet, nothing will be done to him because the entire "justice" system which he has politically weaponized is also a fraud.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56184 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:26 am to
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I think he is going down over these payments to Michael Cohen.


He is not. You realize the statement of facts is simply the DA making things sound as nefarious as possible and aren’t actually the facts, right? You realize there is a mountain of exculpatory evidence including an audio recording of Trump that completely exonerate him, right? And you realize none of that was presented to the grand jury, right?
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 8:26 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107916 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:29 am to
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I voted for Trump twice


There it is, your takes now have more credibility since you added that.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107916 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:38 am to
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tarzana
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34845 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:41 am to
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You realize the statement of facts is simply the DA making things sound as nefarious as possible and aren’t actually the facts, right?


What??? Net you're going to tell me The Patriot Act doesn't make us more patriotic.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4599 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:46 am to
And you have Cohen's own former attorney Robert J. Costello telling folks he has ZERO credibility.

There is a reason why legal minds even at the Federal level wouldn't or couldn't take this case.

This is 100% a political hit job to try and damage a Presidental run.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5564 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 8:47 am to
In a real court of law he ain't got shite. Not even close. The problem is it's not a real court of law. He got a dem donor as a judge and Manhattan as his jury. That's the problem. You don't think there are billionaires out there ready to make these jurors rich to convict. That's his problem.
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1832 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:07 am to
Now give the thorough legal analysis. Discuss the New York statue and describe, with specificity, the alleged secondary crime. Also explain the statute of limitations. Thanks.
This post was edited on 4/6/23 at 9:09 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27339 posts
Posted on 4/6/23 at 9:14 am to
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All of the charges boil down to fraud, which is not good.

Not good for whom? Trump supporters don't care about the fraud regarding Trump University for which Trump paid $25 million. Allegations or proof of fraud by Trump or his organizations has absolutely no impact on Trump supporters. None. Zero. If the goal of this prosecution is to impugn Trump's reputation by making an allegation of fraud, it won't work.
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