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re: Trump mandates all EPA data to be reviewed prior to release

Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116076 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:26 pm to
Exactly. He just doesn't want them releasing a bunch of politically motivated bullshite in the meantime.

FYI, I am someone that absolutely believes in Global Warming.

I just don't get my panties in a bunch about something clearly logical.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Associated Press ?@AP BREAKING: Trump administration mandating EPA scientific studies, data undergo review by political staff before public release.


If this is true, every single one of you frickers should be afraid, very afraid. It's one thing to want to quell scientific or media bias but only Trump approved information is a recipe for absolute disaster.

This makes me WABA, Want America Back Again.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:26 pm to
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You think the EPA was just releasing shite left and right that wasn't approved by Obama.
Sure. I think Obama probably agreed with most of it anyway, but I'm not aware of any similar rule under his administration requiring WH political staff to approve data.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:28 pm to
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This is so freaking inane. They are part of the EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT


They exist and get their authority from an Act. Not from Trump. Don't be a fricking retard.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:28 pm to
Few realize this Josh. It's a long, long term objective, but it has started.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45237 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:28 pm to
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If this is true, every single one of you frickers should be afraid, very afraid.


Why?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116076 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:28 pm to
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If this is true, every single one of you frickers should be afraid, very afraid.


We should be afraid of a boss telling his employees not to release things without his approval?

Ok.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116076 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:29 pm to
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They exist and get their authority from an Act. Not from Trump. Don't be a fricking retard.


And their boss is....
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:29 pm to
scientific research, especially that funded by the government, should be freely available to the community.

if a group takes issues with any findings, they are free to refute them using facts, observations, and logic.

that's how the science thing works.

restricting this process is wholly unethical and detrimental to the advancement of society.

Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:29 pm to
Its amazing how quickly "conservatives" bow down to the executive branch after a Republican is in office.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101561 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:29 pm to
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They exist because of and get their authority from an Act.


Yes, it was via an EXECUTIVE ORDER of the then President.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21916 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:30 pm to
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We should be afraid of a boss telling his employees not to release things without his approval?


When what he's telling them to release is scientific data? Absolutely.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14434 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:30 pm to
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I'm not aware of any similar rule under his administration requiring WH political staff to approve data.


What if the data that Trump's staff has is conflicting with what the EPA wants to release?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112693 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:30 pm to
This board needs a remedial civics class.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83613 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:31 pm to
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We should be afraid of a boss telling his employees not to release things without his approval?


We're the boss.

This is taxpayer funded data.

What happened to transparency?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101561 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:32 pm to
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We're the boss.


Nope, not of the EPA. The President is their ultimate boss.

Fortunately, WE are still HIS.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83613 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Nope, not of the EPA. The President is their ultimate boss.

Fortunately, WE are still HIS.


cool

so you agree with me
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
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So, in theory, the executive branch should have editing control of scientific data from one of its "appendages"? Are you guys hearing yourself?


Their managing supervisor, reviewer and BOSS is the Chief Executive. They work directly for the POTUS. They report to the POTUS.

They are NOT independent in any way. Congress originally had the authority and responsibility to carry out the missions of these agencies. Congress decided that it was too much trouble SO they delegated all rule-making responsibility and authority to these agencies that are in the Executive Branch. POTUS is the Boss of everything in the Executive Branch.

EPA and all of their snowflake liberal bureaucrat Democrats WILL NOW bend to the Will of the POTUS.

The decision is Unalterable, Final and Non-Negotiable. The End. Stop talking and get back to work.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29188 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

We're the boss.

This is taxpayer funded data.

What happened to transparency?



Went from drain the swamp to power grab just like that. Sad that short sidedness and partisanship makes DC exactly like it's always been.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101561 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:34 pm to
Sort of, but it still seems you have the chain of command fricked up.
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