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re: Trump lawyer: Comey leaked his memo day before tweets despite what a Comey said under oath

Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:17 pm to
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What is he grasping at straws for? Trump's attorney made an argument about Comey leaking the memo. You're trying to vindicate this argument by moving the goalposts from "memo" to "talked about the meeting."


No. You are missing the point.

He is saying that Comey leaked the memo at a certain time, not that the NYT wrote an article about it.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:18 pm to
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so he had his friend call the NYT on May 11 and tell him IN DETAIL FROM MEMORY everything the memo said?
The May 11 story doesn't say everything the memo said, the May 16 story includes far more detail. In particular the word "Flynn" doesn't appear in the May 11 story.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:19 pm to
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The May 11 story doesn't say everything the memo said,


Let go of the word "memo"

The story clearly refers to information that Comey or his source told the newspaper.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Let go of the word "memo"


Why? That is what the lawyer stated and is claiming where Comey lied.

Why are you all trying to change things now?
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:20 pm to
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I bet the Dems didn't see this one coming.....hahaha. No PROOF of Trump lies under oath, but now we might have Comey lying under oath. WOW


The Dems will rue the day that a Special Prosecutor was assigned to follow "related matters" in this whole scandalous debacle. Political/criminal quicksand...pure and simple.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Let go of the word "memo"
Tell that to Kasowitz.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:21 pm to
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The May 11 story doesn't say everything the memo said,


so you're arguing they only got to peek at "part" of the memo on may 11?

keep being you.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Tell that to Kasowitz.


pray tell me what SAUCE was used to provide THE EXACT MEMO LANGUAGE in the NYT story on May 11.

maybe a verbal reading of the memo over the phone to the NYT doesn't constitute a 'memo leak' to you
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:22 pm to
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so you're arguing they only got to peek at "part" of the memo on may 11?
I'm saying they probably got that not from the memo, but from Comey's associates recalling his conversations with them. If the NYT had the memo I hardly think they would've held back the fact that Flynn was involved.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:23 pm to
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, but from Comey's associates recalling his conversations with them. If the NYT had the memo I hardly think they would've held back the fact that Flynn was involved.


maybe a verbal reading of the memo over the phone to the NYT doesn't constitute a 'memo leak' to you

the memo didn't leak unless they had the PDF emailed to them?

good times.
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:23 pm to
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pray tell me what SAUCE was used to provide THE EXACT MEMO LANGUAGE in the NYT story on May 11.

maybe a verbal reading of the memo over the phone to the NYT doesn't constitute a 'memo leak' to you
Senator McCain, your time has expired.
Posted by elposter
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:25 pm to
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I think Comey leaking the memo was him calling Trump's bluff about the tapes.

That's it.


Maybe so. However the basic contents of the memo had already been leaked to the press before the tweet. In his testimony today Comey tried to present this picture of "I wasn't going to make a big deal of or disclose Trump's comments/conduct during our meetings but I woke up one night after Trump's tweet and I just couldn't stay silent anymore". That's false and Trump's attorney was basically calling him out on that noting that Comey's version of events was already leaked to the press which prompted the tweet. His attorney started out talking about information being leaked and then specifically said memos and conflated the two when he shouldn't have. If you get your head out of the weeds and you can see the attorney's point is a legitimate one. Comey had no intention of staying silent until Trump's tweet. He was already talking and it was already in the press. That's the attorney's point.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:26 pm to
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maybe a verbal reading of the memo over the phone to the NYT doesn't constitute a 'memo leak' to you
I don't think they were reading a memo at all
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:26 pm to
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However the basic contents of the memo had already been leaked to the press before the tweet

exactly.

so comey gave this to his associate before the tweet and had him leak it to the NYT ON OR BEFORE MAY 11

CASE CLOSED
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I don't think they were reading a memo at all


HOLY shite THEY LUCKED OUT CRAFTING A NEWS STORY WITH THE EXACT SAME WORDS AS THE MEMO!

MIND BLOWN
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:27 pm to
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His attorney started out talking about information being leaked and then specifically said memos and conflated the two when he shouldn't have. If you get your head out of the weeds and you can see the attorney's point is a legitimate one. Comey had no intention of staying silent until Trump's tweet. He was already talking and it was already in the press. That's the attorney's point.


I understand the attorney's point.

But when you accuse someone of lying under oath on this big of a stage, it's important to get your words and facts right.

In that, he failed.


Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:28 pm to
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However the basic contents of the memo had already been leaked to the press before the tweet.
Because, as Comey repeatedly stated, he didn't just write a memo. He also told other FBI officials about conversations he had just had with Trump. Those conversations formed the basis of the May 11 story.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:28 pm to
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I don't think they were reading a memo at all


You're doing strong work today for "Obtuse Poster of the day."
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:29 pm to
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exactly.

so comey gave this to his associate before the tweet and had him leak it to the NYT ON OR BEFORE MAY 11

CASE CLOSED


Did the information from May 11th come from the same person that Comey leaked the memo? Do we know this?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:29 pm to
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HOLY shite THEY LUCKED OUT CRAFTING A NEWS STORY WITH THE EXACT SAME WORDS AS THE MEMO!
It's not luck, it's because the memo and the secondhand accounts of his associates are describing the exact same conversation.
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