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re: TRUMP Landslide - Still Happening!

Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24269 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:32 pm to
Helmut Norpoth, whose model predicted a Trump win in 2016 despite him trailing big in the polls, is predicting that Trump will have a 90% chance to win again. He said his model is based on presidential primary results and other predictors and not polls.

He has said the COVID or riots won't be enough to effect the outcome. He said he is prepared to see Trump possibly lose the popular vote, but win the electoral college. His model has predicted 5 of the last 6 (the only inaccurate one was Bush/Gore which had razor thin margins and tons of controversy).

His formula gets 25 of the 27 presidential elections correct when going back and plugging in the numbers (JFK was the only other one that was off, but was extremely close and contested). He said he gets hate mail from people and even friends, but said he is confident in his system because he uses actual voting results as a predictor and not polls (which he said aren't effective because people being polled often don't even vote).
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24269 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:38 pm to
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Isn't that from February?

Close.

quote:
This forecast is unconditional and final; hence not subject to any updating. It was first posted March 2, 2020



He did the same thing in 2016 and predicted Trump would win in March of 2016 even though everyone said he was nuts. Again, his formula involves elections and results that have taken place and not useless polls.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73654 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:40 pm to
HI is going red for sure

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:42 pm to
If that map happens I will not ask for anything for Christmas.
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1578 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:44 pm to
I’ll just say that whatever happens won’t top my 2016 election night. Actually was with a client and his SJW girlfriend (who the majority of this board would know) at dinner and watched in person a melty melt live. I couldn’t stop laughing and she was about to cry.

Maybe I should invite them to dinner again this year.
This post was edited on 10/8/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31878 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:46 pm to
Until another candidate enters the race......













Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45809 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:46 pm to
I agree, Trump winning NY would be absolutely incredible on the melt scale
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19660 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:48 pm to
Pretty much. I don’t see us flipping for Trump unfortunately. Best we can hope for is to keep Gardner and that’s a long shot
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:50 pm to
Gotta get a bigger version of that gif.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124423 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:52 pm to
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Best gif ever
it really is
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
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If Trump won NY liberals would commit suicide.


You say this like it's a bad thing.



Can the republicans cheat this time to make this happen?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
STONY BROOK PROFESSOR!!!!!
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34746 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 7:57 pm to
I would literally rip off my pants and go streaking if Trump wins New York
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12478 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:00 pm to
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Background on Helmut Norpoth?

Wizard
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:01 pm to
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If Trump won NY liberals would commit suicide.





dude when TRUMP wins PERIOD get ready for a few mini JONESTOWNS And HEAVEN'S GATES!

FACT! this will push many of those mentally ill frickwads over the edge!

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:02 pm to
Trump wins NY and loses NH?

Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:10 pm to
Pro wrestling used to be one of the greatest forms of entertainment ever

You could get away with things that you couldn’t do anywhere else

This fricking woke society Is the worst thing ever. Why can’t people just laugh
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:17 pm to
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He did the same thing in 2016 and predicted Trump would win in March of 2016 even though everyone said he was nuts. Again, his formula involves elections and results that have taken place and not useless polls.
Yes I understand. But do you understand that the formula means that the final 6-8 months of campaigning leading up to an election are meaningless? Do you believe that? You kind of have to if you put any stock in this model.


When the guy created this model in 1996, he did it by tweaking variables until it retroactively picked all but 1 prior election correctly. Also, to make more of the retroactive picks work, he used all the primary results before 1952, at which point he switched to New Hampshire only. He later added South Carolina in 2008.

He pats himself on the back for a partial "win" in 2000 when it incorrectly picked Gore because he won the popular vote, but doesn't mention Trump's popular vote loss as a partial "loss" for the model.


I mean, if you need this to give yourself some hope for next month, by all means enjoy it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140464 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:20 pm to
If trump wins, will you be ok?
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
3760 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 8:29 pm to
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New York, but not New Hampshire? This projection is invalidated


I agree. NH is more likely than NY. Would be fun if NY did flip.
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