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re: Trump just invoked the Defense Production Act.

Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:19 pm to
great post
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:01 am to
Why didn’t he do this to produce masks and other needed items when COVID started? He could have saved us from the Biden presidency and this twisted version of MAGA that we are currently living.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:13 am to
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The Defense Production Act is literal socialism. The government tells manufacturers what they should make instead of consumers.



What? When you order a product from any company, do you expect them to make what you ordered, or send you what they want to? This is an order to produce energy for defense purposes. They are simply being asked to produce more of what they already produce.

Did you not understand that, or is it that you're just pretending not to understand so that you can "take a stand" against something?
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:29 pm to
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So we just accept now that a president can declare and start a war. No congressional approval? Such a change in how you all felt when Dems were presidents.


The last time Congress declared war was June 1942. I’m consistently amazed at how ignorant so many of you are.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 6:34 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:31 pm to
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Incorrect. Iraq War. And before that the Gulf War.


Dude. I appreciate your ability to be consistent and speak your mind in good faith. However, you are just incorrect here. Last time Congress declared war was June 1942.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:32 pm to
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The Defense Production Act is literal socialism. The government tells manufacturers what they should make instead of consumers.


Reminds me of Russia. Russia is having a very tough time economically right now.
Posted by LawTalkingGuy
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:00 pm to
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Dude. I appreciate your ability to be consistent and speak your mind in good faith. However, you are just incorrect here. Last time Congress declared war was June 1942.


He is technically wrong, and you are right, but Congress did authorize the use of military force in Iraq both times...they were just too chicken to actually declare war.

I suppose Trump would claim the current action in Iraq falls under the AUMF of 2001, although I dont think Ive seen that expressly stated. That authorization, of course, was limited to "those nations, organiza-
tions, or persons [POTUS] determines planned, authorized, committed, OR aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons"

I dont know what role Iraq played in the 9/11 attacks, or why attacking them almost 25 years later is justified under the AUMF, but the statute has no time or location limits, and has been used by 4 Presidents as an excuse to attack anyone they want.

The continued reliance on the AUMF is probably unconstitutional, but I dont know how anyone other than Congress could put a stop to it...and even Congress would need a majority capable of over riding a Presidential veto.
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