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re: Trump is signing an executive order Thursday directing the closure of the Department of Ed
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:24 pm to High C
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:24 pm to High C
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Public school teacher here yelling, “Hell yeah!”
Don't worry there is already a judge that has written an nationwide injunction order to keep it open
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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When is he getting to AFT? That's the one I'm waiting for.
Yeah, you and I both. Tired of paperwork every time I want to add another hush can to the collection.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 pm to BCreed1
Then the night traffic court judge, from Bugtussle, will put out an order demanding all progress stops. He will want them to open their numbers up to Biden level personnel, and also demand the Epstein files. 
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Based off the budget requests by the department.
Doesn't work that way. Congress appropriate the money. And since we're going to get another endless string of CRs, no one is cutting DOE's budget.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:31 pm to BCreed1
Now, do what needs to be done to kill it for good. Don't leave a mostly-dead corpse of the DoE that can be revived by someone else's Executive Order.
ETA: Pay attention to how the actual plan of transitioning away from DoE to the authority of the states is articulated. There needs to be an actual well-defined plan. If there isn't, and they are playing this by ear and it blows up in their faces even a little bit......it will be a huge player in midterms.
ETA: Pay attention to how the actual plan of transitioning away from DoE to the authority of the states is articulated. There needs to be an actual well-defined plan. If there isn't, and they are playing this by ear and it blows up in their faces even a little bit......it will be a huge player in midterms.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:52 pm to terd ferguson
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Oh fricking well. Let them pay back their loans like everyone else.
I’m not In the PSLF program. My wife and I are down to under $15K on an initial $300K+ college/med school debt burden, for reference.
Here’s what I have trouble with:
The paperwork we signed when we took out the loans outlined an alternative way to pay them off- generally to encourage people to not be scared of taking non-top-dollar jobs with governmental and charity organizations. Some people planned their careers around a contract they signed and honored and expected to be honored. I don’t think shutting down the program should include cutting off the promise made before.
I cannot find a logic that makes doing so ok and, for instance, implementing new taxes on Roth accounts bad/wrong.
In both cases, I think it’s fair to change the rules going forward, I think it’s somewhat troublesome to promise something, change the rules 15-20 years later, and not deliver on the previous agreement.
Now, I’ve got not clue what the EO’s actual effect on PSLF is, but if it cuts those who finished school and have paid 9/10 of their time off (or even those who are still in school but have the promissory note that outlined it) I think they have a pretty legitimate gripe.
Changing the rules of planning mid-game is extremely frustrating, and it very rarely favors us plebeians when the rules change.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:04 pm to BCreed1
While I’m all in favor of shutting it down, Trump has to know that an EO isn’t gonna get it done over the long haul.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:20 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
While I agree, your pals in the judiciary are slowing every thing down that he’s trying to accomplish
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:21 pm to DawgCountry
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your pals in the judiciary
My pals in the judiciary have done more for the Second Amendment than Trump ever will.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:46 pm to BCreed1
Incoming Judge with Pink hair will stop this .
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:49 pm to High C
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Public school teacher here yelling, “Hell yeah!”
What’s the beef with the Dept of Education? I assumed they just handled how federal funds are distributed. Do they have any say in what’s taught or how schools operate?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why do you think the DOE is the only department that can handle a loan program?
Aren’t you for smaller government?
This is smaller government.
Aren’t you for smaller government?
This is smaller government.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This is screwing up PSLF bigly
Th Dept of Ed issues student loans so if it ceases to exist, what would happen to the debt?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:40 pm to lake chuck fan
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Good. Let the states decide how to use its tax dollars for education
Sounds very promising for Louisiana students.
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