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re: Trump is not happy about SCOTUS and tariffs

Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:52 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:52 am to
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Ivory is a tad more reasonable than VOR but it is a thinly veiled disguise of being SFP combined with VOR.


Thanks:)?

I call em like I see em. I didn't say Mamdani's speech was "reasonable." His policies are both legally impossible (for instance, the state of New York controls tax rates) and doomed to failure. I just said that his speech wasn't "hateful."

Same with this. I think the Trump's tariffs are a great idea. So is giving me a million dollar tax refund. Neither are legal. Doesn't mean I'm against Trump or me getting a million dollars.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9443 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:57 am to
465 people[congress] cannot agree to a continuing resolution to keep spending at current levels without shutdowns, yet the Supreme Court will ask the 465 to manage trade relations with 180 countries covering 5000 products.

that is way to absurd even for sfp to justify
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:59 am to
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If a POTUS can stop trade can he also limit trade?
I thought the purpose of the tariffs was to eliminate the income tax, and refinance the debt at cheaper rates?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 9:59 am to
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If you are claiming to be a lawyer then your naive and ignorant opinions make even more sense Temu VOR


Are lawyers not allowed to have opinions about the law? You are a weird, angry dude. Watch your blood pressure. God bless.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1837 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:01 am to
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there has to be a check to this unilateral declaration of emergencies.


Elections?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:03 am to
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Elections?


Voters would vote against the constitution at every turn.

Incumbents are elected at a 95% clip and their approval rating is below 20%. The voters are idiots.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:03 am to
Yes we need a Congress who cares about decreasing the power of government, which will require voters who care about decreasing the power of government

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:03 am to
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Im game. Since you say it is a "tax" on Americans, how would you ensure all 340 million got a refund proportionate to what they paid?
I thought foreign countries paid all of the tariiffs?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:03 am to
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I thought the purpose of the tariffs was to eliminate the income tax, and refinance the debt at cheaper rates?


No, no, no...it's to protect NATIONAL SECURITY!!!
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67174 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:03 am to
His fixation on tariffs is pretty odd,
especially his need to exaggerate the“benefits” that are mostly illusory so far…
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3167 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:04 am to
Question, can POTUS unilaterally remove existing tariff?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9443 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:04 am to
every body with a rectum is allowed to have opinions. Not all opinions are useful

may you have fair winds and a following sea in your lifes journey
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:05 am to
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Are lawyers not allowed to have opinions about the law?


Not when they become activists and are in a position of power to enact.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111819 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:05 am to
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that is way to absurd even for sfp to justify


You apparently have not been reading this thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:06 am to
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465 people[congress] cannot agree to a continuing resolution to keep spending at current levels without shutdowns, yet the Supreme Court will ask the 465 to manage trade relations with 180 countries covering 5000 products.

that is way to absurd even for sfp to justify

It's a good thing that isn't my argument. Nice straw man, though.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7158 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:06 am to
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Not when they become activists and are in a position of power to enact.


Cool. I don't have any power over tariffs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:07 am to
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You apparently have not been reading this thread

Bro

You conflating legislative power and a judicial declaration was bad enough, but now you're giving credence to obvious straw man arguments?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:07 am to
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Nice straw man, though.
Not even a good strawman. There's no Constitutional basis for the "Congress didn't do anything, so the president gets to do whatever he wants".
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56655 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:07 am to
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Why do you think the government should be able to keep money it seized illegally?


It’s being distributed to the people. $2000 tariff rebate checks. Good luck trying to get that back.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 10:08 am to
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Cool. I don't have any power over tariffs.


I would trust you more than those dipshits on the bench who think they have superhuman powers.
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