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re: Trump is falling into Europe’s and Ukraine trap, attacks Putin.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:48 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:48 am to RaoulDuke504
Im holding out and believing Trump can see thru this. He surely knows that we've had Americans in Ukraine targeting Russian military, and he surely knows Rubio has known this.
Its obvious that the neocons and EU are pushing this war to continue and undermining his efforts at peace. Lately, it seems all of Trumps efforts so far are beginning to be overcome by the same forces we voted for him to destroy.
Its obvious that the neocons and EU are pushing this war to continue and undermining his efforts at peace. Lately, it seems all of Trumps efforts so far are beginning to be overcome by the same forces we voted for him to destroy.
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Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:48 am to RaoulDuke504
quote:rootin4putin bros just dont agree
to get Trump mad to make it look like Russia was playing him.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:49 am to ApexTiger
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I hope we pull up anchor in Ukraine, we should not be there should have have provided weapons, and talked NATO for nearly 2 decades why would Russa trust America after these actions? Putin is protecting his interest they way he see how things are playing out Let's pull up and let Ukraine and Europe figure out their problems
This is the problem.
Trump is trying to separate his administration from what Biden has done.
However Putin has been in this position before where he works with one administration then the next comes in and tries to destroy Russia. The U.S. is also still actively participating in strikes and logistics that are essential for Ukraine.
So while Trump is trying to act neutral to get an end to the war our actions and past tells otherwise, such as NATO expansion.
Now Putin is only looking for a win that is beneficial to Russia and not dependent on who’s the next U.S. president who may restart the war.
Trump doesn’t understand that and is still trying to save face to Europe and the world by still getting Ukraine something out of the end of war despite Ukraine having no means to achieve that militarily and also refuses to accept.
This put Trump in 3 positions, back Ukraine by dragging this on and being a cloud over his entire term as Ukraine still screams it’s not enough. Give Ukraine everything they want and drag us deeper into the war, or walk away lose faces, look weak, and hurt our reputation abroad.
This was a trap set out by Europe and the previous administration and its been long planned and a tough choice he has to choose.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:50 am to IvoryBillMatt
Personally offended is your slant on the situation.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:53 am to goatmilker
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Dream on guys DJT is not going to war just stop lol
Of course not, just another empty bluff by Trump.
No one believes him anymore.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:54 am to PoppedRiser
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He has an opportunity to be a great president, and not become an LBJ type asterisk.
I think he's a great president for other reasons, but I agree he missed the opportunity to resolve the Ukraine War.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
Funny that to you it's Trump lying not Putin not Z that is noteworthy here lol
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:55 am to RaoulDuke504
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RaoulDuke504
You and that John Barron loon should be best buds IRL.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:56 am to RaoulDuke504
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This was a trap set out by Europe and the previous administration and its been long planned and a tough choice he has to choose.
How does Russia always dodge all responsibility in a war that they started?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 11:56 am to goatmilker
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Funny that to you it's Trump lying
He is, constantly.
No one, even his own MAGAphiles put stock in his words. Even y'all realize its "negotiating" (bluffing)
No one believes his bluffs anymore.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:01 pm to PoppedRiser
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Agree. Putin knows Trump's manner of speaking and hyperbole to get his point across.
And the Russians openly talk about how he has "emotional overload" when he does it.
Another poster wisely said a day or so ago, that when the Russians said that, they were essentially telling Trump he's acting like a woman.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:02 pm to Powerman
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How does Russia always dodge all responsibility in a war that they started?
Doge responsibility? Are you a child?
Russia is winning a war, Ukraine can’t fight without major assistance from a defense bloc they aren’t apart of. For Ukraine to win they would have to send their citizens and put themselves as a direct fighter in the war to achieve that.
No position of “Russia is at fault” and “Ukraine deserves sovereignty” changes the reality of what war is no matter how many little school girl games people like you want to use.
You want Ukraine to win, send troops, jets, let them use our launch sites, give them 200 billion, and take the political and security risk. If not Ukraine needs to be forced to either concede by NATO telling them we are done or concede to Russia by losing even more until they collapse.
That’s reality not the imaginary world where justice and fairness rules which is why wars are started.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:04 pm to Pandy Fackler
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And the Russians openly talk about how he has "emotional overload" when he does it. Another poster wisely said a day or so ago, that when the Russians said that, they were essentially telling Trump he's acting like a woman.
TBF this is a different ball game, you can’t use strength talk when you aren’t actually willing to use your arsenal of entering a war that’s not yours.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:05 pm to Pandy Fackler
That “Emotional overload” comment is just taunting at this point
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:07 pm to RaoulDuke504
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Doge responsibility? Are you a child?
My point is we have people saying that people within the U.S. government and the Europeans are tricking or baiting Trump. As if Putin isn't also doing the same thing.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:08 pm to PoppedRiser
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This is Trump doing bad cop, good cop routine all by himself.
Is this 5D or 6D? Trying to figure where we're at right now.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:08 pm to RaoulDuke504
I dont read this tweet as an attack on Putin. It is more like a heads up.
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:11 pm to RaoulDuke504
Any guesses as to the "REALLY bad things" Trump has prevented from happening to Russia or do you think Trump is making things up?
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:12 pm to Powerman
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My point is we have people saying that people within the U.S. government and the Europeans are tricking or baiting Trump. As if Putin isn't also doing the same thing.
Putin is at a point of advantage where if he keeps doing the same thing he will eventually win. Ukraine concedes the 4 territories they partial occupy and the war is over.
Ukraine is where they need levels of support above what they received the last 3 years to regain all their territories while not having enough man power and making maximalist demands that are un achievable, or to pause the war so they can retool and regroup.
So Europe is obviously playing Trump to the tune of they want something it’s impossible for them to achieve vs Putin can achieve his goals while it will just take more time.
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/27/25 at 12:13 pm to AGGIES
Its interesting to see how powerless our president really is over the foreign policy. He couldnt stop WW3 if he tried. They have been planning this for over a decade and Nato is executing it rather Trump is on board or not. I think we are likely to see him get on board eventually after this song and dance. He is already doing the lying by admission thing, when he pretended Russia's massive attack on Kiev just came out of nowhere. The sending of Taurus missiles to Ukraine should be the direct start of WW3 as it will be Nato striking Russia (no longer just hiding behind Ukraine doing it).
This post was edited on 5/27/25 at 12:14 pm
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