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Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:12 pm to Jjdoc
No, the solution is to not let them in to begin with.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:12 pm to David_DJS
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I want someone with a f'n backbone, and Trump's 2020 proved he doesn't have one.
I too am disappointed in Covid Trump. But CCP Griffin and Raytheon Ron scare me even more.
I think Vivek and Donalds are the better answer than both but need to pad the resume a little more. A Donalds/Ramaswamy ticket in 2028 would be my ideal choice today.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:14 pm to Lsut81
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So same outcome whether they come from the inside or outside...
More from Trump.
You want to bring more Muslims into this country?
That's like saying if you already have cancer then it's fine if we give you an HIV+ blood transfusion. You're already sick so what's a little more disease going to hurt?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:16 pm to ItNeverRains
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I too am disappointed in Covid Trump. But CCP Griffin and Raytheon Ron scare me even more.
As governor, what has DeSantis done that's consistent with being an establishment stooge?
Want me to list the things Trump actually did/presided over as president that are establishment AF?
People get way too hung up with who said nice things about someone else or even donated to their campaign. It's not like Donalds wouldn't need big money to run for president, and it's not like Vivek doesn't have some serious big money behind him.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:20 pm to Jjdoc
“Globalist Drumpf” amirite?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:22 pm to idlewatcher
LOL!
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:22 pm to ItNeverRains
Do the Trumptards ever get tired of lying?
"CCP stooge"? GTFO.
"CCP stooge"? GTFO.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:28 pm to David_DJS
As governor, what has DeSantis done that's consistent with being an establishment stooge?
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One day Ukraine is a territorial dispute
Two days later , after the establishment gets ahold of him , it’s all in on Ukraine .
F off Ron … won’t be voting for another Bushy , Romney , Ryan or McCain …
Ron had over a year to thoroughly think through his Ukraine - Russia policy and what his response would be
And he changes it within 48 hours of stating his policy . What a freaking WIMP .
Think this guy is going to go after the DOJ or the FBI or CIA ?
No … within 48 hours he will be on All fours sucking as much FBI cock as possible. F that Guy
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One day Ukraine is a territorial dispute
Two days later , after the establishment gets ahold of him , it’s all in on Ukraine .
F off Ron … won’t be voting for another Bushy , Romney , Ryan or McCain …
Ron had over a year to thoroughly think through his Ukraine - Russia policy and what his response would be
And he changes it within 48 hours of stating his policy . What a freaking WIMP .
Think this guy is going to go after the DOJ or the FBI or CIA ?
No … within 48 hours he will be on All fours sucking as much FBI cock as possible. F that Guy
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:29 pm to David_DJS
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As governor, what has DeSantis done that's consistent with being an establishment stooge?
I don’t care about DeSantis or any other governor’s geopolitical ideology or the geopolitical leanings and compromises of those donor who wish to pad their war chests, outside of the state I reside in, and even that’s not a huge concern. A governor simply has little power outside his state, and even less outside the US.
You are the company you keep. Ron’s company scares me more than Don’s company. Again I hope Jared Kushner and Ivanka are nowhere near Trump his 2nd term.
Likewise it’s possible Ron may tell the Ryan’s, Rove’s, Murdoch’s, and Griffin’s to go frick themselves after he’s sworn in.
For now, I’ll stick with the a-hole I know.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:30 pm to Message Board User
So at the same time that Trump is criticizing Desantis for allegedly siding with a foreign company, his campaign is selling hats made in Bangladesh.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:32 pm to Texas Weazel
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His watch? I'm no Trump fan, but are we really going forget that many of the liberal cities refused federal assistance in quelling the 2020 "Summer of love" riots?
Not only did Blue shite hole cities refuse federal help, I think they threatened to sue if Trump were to send troops in to quell the violence.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:35 pm to Message Board User
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CCP stooge"? GTFO
Again, when Ken Griffin and Paul Singer are your corner men , the CCP at the minimum has ringside seats. Typically the guy in the ring follows what his corner men tell him to do. Ron’s corner men are CCP stooges. Anyone who says otherwise is naive at best.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:36 pm to ItNeverRains
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You are the company you keep. Ron’s company scares me more than Don’s company.
But what about Don's outrageous spending? That doesn't count for what it is - "establishment"?
What about his refusal (went back on his word, in fact) to not extend Fisa? Is that not establishment?
What part of his Covid response was not big government/establishment? At the most important time of his presidency, Trump went full establishment.
Somewhere along the line, I think what you do is more important than what others say about you.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:38 pm to ItNeverRains
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Again, when Ken Griffin and Paul Singer are your corner men , the CCP at the minimum has ringside seats. Typically the guy in the ring follows what his corner men tell him to do. Ron’s corner men are CCP stooges. Anyone who says otherwise is naive at best.
Lulz.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:39 pm to Bass Tiger
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I think they threatened to sue if Trump were to send troops in to quell the violence.
Threatened to sue? OMG then yeah, Trump can wash his hands because what president would ever not back down after being threatened like that?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:54 pm to Jjdoc
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And again, your are being dishonest.
Trump offered, states turned it down and he has NO authority to act except for on federal property WHICH HE DID!
You want a KING not a President and a Republic.
The problem is that Trump only knows how to be effective as a King (which he essentially was in the private sector running business) but not as a President of a Republic.
I want a leader who can either:
1. Clearly communicate his intentions, sway the American people with his message, and earn a mandate to action. There is a reason Reagan was called the Great Communicator. It is how he governed so effectively while dealing with the Deep State. Unfortunately, tweeting "LAW AND ORDER" while cities burn will not suffice here.
or
2. Effectively make deals with the opposition. This is what Trump promised, and it worked with foreign policy when dealing with adversarial nations, but due to poor messaging (see #1), he never built the mandate for it to work domestically.
Every time you all say "But Trump had such major opposition in getting his agenda done!" you are implying that there's nothing that can be done about that. I don't give a frick about being offended by "mean tweets" but if you all can't recognize that "mean tweets" turn off a large chunk of the population, stir controversy, kill your mandate, and bolster the opposition, etc. then America will just keep losing, and there's no amount of "haha snowflakes are offended by mean tweets!" copium that will change that.
If Trump is elected in 2024 he will face the same opposition and will have no more powers than he did in his first term. If he wants to have any future success as a politician he'll need to learn to lead despite not being a King.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:55 pm to Message Board User
And I agree with this move Gov DeSantis has made against CCP. I hope more governors follow his lead. But on the global scale, these restrictions on the CCP in Florida, USA are almost meaningless. That’s not a knock on DeSantis, that’s just reality.
Just like I liked everything Kevin McCarthy did and said after being named speaker prior to the debt ceiling. I absolutely could be wrong, but my fear is when the push comes to shove, DeSantis will have to basically tell his biggest donors to get fricked in regards to their geopolitical aspirations. He will cave like McCarthy. And I’m still not sure if he’s on a different page regarding pro-interventionist geopolitically.
DeSantis may be everything you guys believe he is. He may be the shiniest tool not being used in the shed. But I’ve got a rusty shovel I’ve seen dig a few needed holes, I’m sticking with what I know.
Just like I liked everything Kevin McCarthy did and said after being named speaker prior to the debt ceiling. I absolutely could be wrong, but my fear is when the push comes to shove, DeSantis will have to basically tell his biggest donors to get fricked in regards to their geopolitical aspirations. He will cave like McCarthy. And I’m still not sure if he’s on a different page regarding pro-interventionist geopolitically.
DeSantis may be everything you guys believe he is. He may be the shiniest tool not being used in the shed. But I’ve got a rusty shovel I’ve seen dig a few needed holes, I’m sticking with what I know.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 4:57 pm to efrad
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Every time you all say "But Trump had such major opposition in getting his agenda done!" you are implying that there's nothing that can be done about that.
100% spot on.
The Trumptards will claim that Trump is all-powerful and the only one who can drain the swamp and stand up to the globalists (whatever that term means to them), and yet at the same time will come up with every excuse in the world why he couldn't do that during his first time, let alone get rid of Fauci, jail HRC, or build the wall.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 5:09 pm to Jjdoc
Trump is correct…as per usual
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