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Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:09 pm to boosiebadazz
Sounds like an unfortunate incident right here at the precipice of an impeachment trial. The article intends to convey a sense of tumult within the ranks.
But in the back of my mind I recall that from time to time news outlets have been known to embellish stories with the goal being to sew seeds of doubt and concern within the sphere of Trump supporters. Just from time to time.
Personally, I'll hold off on going all in on this speculation and research a few other sources of information to perhaps get a more confident feel for the situation.
But in the back of my mind I recall that from time to time news outlets have been known to embellish stories with the goal being to sew seeds of doubt and concern within the sphere of Trump supporters. Just from time to time.
Personally, I'll hold off on going all in on this speculation and research a few other sources of information to perhaps get a more confident feel for the situation.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:46 pm to davyjones
CNN has an article on it saying that Trump wanted them to argue election fraud and they wanted to argue you can’t impeach a guy who has left office.
I know that’ll be taken with a grain of salt here, but if Trump shows up himself to rant and rave about election fraud I’ll lose my mind at that awesomeness
I know that’ll be taken with a grain of salt here, but if Trump shows up himself to rant and rave about election fraud I’ll lose my mind at that awesomeness
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Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:14 pm to boosiebadazz
Well, honestly, I don't actually doubt at all that this disengagement was born of some disagreement about defense strategy. Now, as far as the CNN report that, generically and generally speaking, Trump came in hot and heavy with demands of integrating "mass election fraud" aspects into the overall defense.....not that it matters to anyone and not that anyone cares, but I tend to trust my instincts and gut feeling on any number of assorted matters, and my instincts tell me that the description by CNN is heavy, heavy on speculation and assumption. End of the day, disagreements like this between atty/client aren't at all uncommon. Especially given these particular circumstances. This is probably the most uncomfortable engagement for an attorney that exists, representing Donald Trump on anything whatsoever, regardless the strength of the his case.
Could just as easy be that Trump sensed a lack of the attorneys being "all in" due to many possible reasons.
I know, I need to take a course on shaving down posts. Tl;dr
Could just as easy be that Trump sensed a lack of the attorneys being "all in" due to many possible reasons.
I know, I need to take a course on shaving down posts. Tl;dr
Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:49 pm to boosiebadazz
I wonder if the swamp paid off Butch not to rep. Trump. This could have been a smoke screen put up by Trump to see if the swamp tried to buy off BB and Trump has a clandestine legal team.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:03 am to leeman101
They probably do have irreconcilable differences in opinion about the best defense(s). That wouldn't be surprising at all. I'm guessing that the situation for both Trump and whoever his attorneys are is unlike any other legal representation ever. Probably vastly more stressful and complicated than the first trial. I mean, the House pretty much did nothing to put together a record for the Trump team to work off of. Definitely zero participation by any Trump attorney in connection with the House proceedings. Democrats have played this as dirty as any political maneuver in the history of this country.
Add to all that additional heavy stress on part of the attorney(s) from outside parties warning of burned bridges likely to occur with colleagues and even current clients.....not a very pleasant situation and one that hopefully Trump supporters will never forget.
Add to all that additional heavy stress on part of the attorney(s) from outside parties warning of burned bridges likely to occur with colleagues and even current clients.....not a very pleasant situation and one that hopefully Trump supporters will never forget.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:04 am to davyjones
trump should just represent himself since the whole thing is a farce anyway
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:08 am to boosiebadazz
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Good god, is that Lin Wood music I’m hearing ?!?!
I hope it’s Lin and Sidney...better entertainment value.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:16 am to supatigah
He probably could. But our man wants it to look as good as he possibly can. Which we appreciate about him, ya know? Ain't nothin wrong with not just succeeding, but making it look smooth as humanly possible while you're at it. I certainly appreciate that about him.
For real, I have to think this situation is likey extremely trying for him, family and associates. I hate to gripe about unfairness, but damn. They doing him so wrong. Record breaking wrong.
Nonetheless, he will continue to defeat would be political assassins. Figuratively speaking only, of course.
For real, I have to think this situation is likey extremely trying for him, family and associates. I hate to gripe about unfairness, but damn. They doing him so wrong. Record breaking wrong.
Nonetheless, he will continue to defeat would be political assassins. Figuratively speaking only, of course.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:25 am to davyjones
I believe the tension come from the fact that Trump wants to win the political argument, not the case. The illegitimacy of the whole proceeding is the easy way to win the case but sidesteps the larger (and I think more important) political questions involved.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:37 am to MUMFORD
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In general, what exactly will be presented as "evidence"? Statements made in the speech that preceded the Capitol raid?
well that, and all the fbi warnings of an attach on the capitol they issued January 4.
and the request for help by extracapitol police jan 5- which was denied by Nancy pelosi
and the threat warning form city police, before jan 6 asking for help.
I am sure there is more I am unaware of
Posted on 1/31/21 at 1:38 am to the808bass
Yeah, I guess I see the scenario where it's pretty much universally accepted that there's all but nil chance he's convicted, thus is pondering the opportunity as a open stage to convey some previously unreleased information. Which I don't necessarily disagree with, but I'm confident he's fully aware of the necessity of not setting it up to become what so many hope would/will be a "circus". I think he's got his eye on the most important prize and most likely has appropriate priorities.
As for those recently departed attorneys, they probably just didn't have the nerve to dabble in that area. It's not an irrelevant area either. It's fair game, again, avoiding it getting out of hand in any way.
As for those recently departed attorneys, they probably just didn't have the nerve to dabble in that area. It's not an irrelevant area either. It's fair game, again, avoiding it getting out of hand in any way.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 2:44 am to davyjones
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For real, I have to think this situation is likey extremely trying for him, family and associates.
I can only imagine, but he handled the last 4-5 years pretty well.
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I hate to gripe about unfairness, but damn. They doing him so wrong. Record breaking wrong
This is an understatement to say the least. I didn’t think it could get any worse than the last 4 years, but yet here we are. The Dims/RINOs/Never-Trumpers have to make an example of him so that no one else ever dare to run for POTUS that might threaten to upset their crooked fiefdom. I just hope the American people can remember this down the road and act accordingly. I would say act accordingly in the voting booth, but that’s clearly fricked up too now.
Not sure how this (sham trial and the future of America) all plays out in the end. I’m not hopeful.
Has Chicken released an upside down American flag emoji yet?
Posted on 1/31/21 at 2:46 am to LSU2ALA
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If being out of office shields someone from impeachment, how could this disqualification from holding office in the future work if someone could resign 10 minutes before conviction in the Senate. That doesn't make sense to me.
You're assuming that a president justly impeached could resign before sentencing and then get reelected? I don't know if there is any law preventing a president who resigns from re running. But I'm pretty sure the optics would be far too negative for a comeback campaign to work (assuming legitimate election). So if this hypothetical president actually wants to be president he's better off taking his chances with the decision.
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That doesn't make sense to me.
But this right here is the rub. The only world in which this whole thing makes any fcking sense is one where some top politicians know that Trump won and want to prevent him from ever obtaining a platform where he could effectively prove that and make changes to prevent it in the future. Some people may scoff at that assertion, but you've got to decide whether you think Dems are just so dumb that impeachment is warranted based on saying "peacefully make your voices heard" incited a riot.. or they are so dangerous that my theory is correct. Dumb or dangerous there is no other conclusion.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 6:18 am to Pelican fan99
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I can’t believe these dumbasses are really wasting time with impeachment
Shiny object. And they must damage Trump because his continued participation in the political process can seriously undermine their policy targets. Think Nullification, as the Biden Adm. is considered illegitimate by Trump Nation.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 7:53 am to supatigah
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trump should just represent himself since the whole thing is a farce anyway
I would pay to see that.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 8:31 am to cwill
Maybe he'll ask for a delay so he can assemble the Dream Team: Lin, Sidney, Rudy and Dershowitz !
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:24 am to cypher
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Maybe he'll ask for a delay so he can assemble the Dream Team: Lin, Sidney, Rudy and Dershowitz !
I’d pay real serious money to see someone try to squeeze those egos in a room together.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:27 am to JudgeHolden
So what is the story? I just saw that half of his lawyers team want just Jan 6th argued in his trial. The other half want Jan 6th and election fraud?
What is strange is the date in Feb is scheduled yet many are saying it is DOA. Yet Leahy was sworn in to preside.
It is all crazy...
What is strange is the date in Feb is scheduled yet many are saying it is DOA. Yet Leahy was sworn in to preside.
It is all crazy...
Posted on 1/31/21 at 9:36 am to JudgeHolden
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Trump Hires Impeachment Lawyer: Butch Bowers. UPDATE IN OP—BOWERS FIRED
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JudgeHolden
What are you degenerate bastards so afraid of? You just STOLE an election from the most popular politician in the country, yet it isn't enough for you. You're scared to death that this 74 year-old man is STILL.going to stage a comeback and DESTROY your little illegitimate cabal.
Meanwhile, there's enough REAL EVIDENCE to put Joe & Hunter away for 3 lifetimes (or just hang the bastards and be done with it). Same goes for Barack "I Spy" Obama and the Clintons.
Asshats like you and your little lapdog boosie are prime examples of what's wrong with this country.
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