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re: Trump Doesn’t Know Who Gave Fauci Presidential Commendation
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:29 pm to VolcanicTiger
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:29 pm to VolcanicTiger
Trump is no friend of liberty. He’s completely lost his mind. Or more likely he just lied from the beginning about who he was
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:35 pm to Flockofseagulls84
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Flockofseagulls84
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Joe Biden Lied At Least 16 Times About His Family’s Business Schemes
Posted on 9/14/23 at 4:42 pm to Flockofseagulls84
quote:Based on what? CDC guidelines of 15 days' duration that pathetic losers equate to Trump giving a direct order to shut down the nation indefinitely? Any wonder that you guys overestimated Rhonda's potential?
Trump is no friend of liberty.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:09 pm to SDVTiger
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Drama queens
We meet here again for page after page after fricking page of the same 4 or 5 tards whining about how bad the guy that is 60+ % in the polls is vs. their guy at less than 10%. Page after page, thread after thread, day after day of the same bullshite. I wish TD had some way to mute specific people, but it does not so my distaste for their complete lack of thought, honesty, and style ends up translating into a dislike for desantis. Yes, I would pull the handle for desantis vs. any likely democrat, but there is not going to be a desantis handle next year and every day of this incessant crap makes it less likely there will be a desantis handle in 2028 or 2032.
If these people wanted to win some hearts for desantis, they would go about it by showing that desantis has a plan to deal with the weaponized and corrupt government - or that he even sees the problem (it's a fair question for a candidate supported by !Jeb and paul ryan).
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:14 pm to VolcanicTiger
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An apology appeases people who want to see him humbled. Real men know this, ergo Desantites do not.
An apology in this instance would mean that he actually recognizes that he fricked up the COVID response and it could've been better, that he made mistakes.
Why would anyone trust him not to repeat those exact same mistakes when he hasn't shown he even recognizes them as mistakes, let alone learned from them? THAT is what is at issue here, not some bullshite campaign gotcha or Twitter post.
You all (including Trump himself) fail to realize that he needs to GAIN VOTERS. His hardcore base will forgive him and defend him for these mistakes he refuses to even acknowledge or learn from, but the rest of the electorate will not.
So far he's shown he's incapable of admitting any weak points in his first term and as a result hasn't presented any ideas on how to correct them and be better this time - drain the swamp better this time. He's only shown he's the exact same ego driven narcissist that will cave to whatever the news media and social media influencers say about him - he's shown he's still just as worried about their opinions as he was when he was president.
Tell me what mistakes he's admitted from his first term and the corrections he's laid out that lead you to believe he will "drain the swamp" for real this time? Go ahead and lay it out for us without some bullshite personal attacks or putting words in my mouth.
We'll all await your logical answers that will never come
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:20 pm to David_DJS
quote:There's the problem. RDD is polling about 1/4th that
about 50%
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:20 pm to LakeCharles
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If these people wanted to win some hearts for desantis, they would go about it by showing that desantis has a plan to deal with the weaponized and corrupt government - or that he even sees the problem
It's not on us - strangers on the internet - to make you pay attention and actually listen for you. He's laid this out many times, in much more detailed fashion than Trump.
His plan to actually, literally, drain the DC swamp and end the weaponization of government agencies is the entire reason I support him and will vote for him in the primary. It makes the most sense and has the most attainable actions out of any candidate, in my opinion. Trump wants to build the FBI and CIA a brand new building across the street from the capitol in DC, Desantis wants to move them (as well as the rest of the 3-letter agencies) to Wyoming, South Dakota, Alabama, Utah, etc. Spread them out across the country so they're not filled with DC swamp creatures that live in the bubble.
Do your own research or choose to be an uninformed voter. It's out there in numerous forms for you to discover and learn
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:23 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Based on what?
Oh I don't know. Trying to force an old lady out of her house so he could build limousine parking for his building?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:24 pm to LakeCharles
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We meet here again for page after page after fricking page of the same 4 or 5 tards whining about how bad the guy that is 60+ % in the polls is vs. their guy at less than 10%. Page after page, thread after thread, day after day of the same bullshite.
Not that there aren't a few that whine, but you're mistaking criticism of Trump and his superfans for whining. I think Trump has unfairly and dishonestly tarred/feathered DeSantis in the eyes of his flock, but I don't blame him - it's politics. I blame the emotionally-driven morons on the political Right for being emotionally-driven morons.
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but it does not so my distaste for their complete lack of thought, honesty, and style ends up translating into a dislike for desantis.
Go read the new thread about DeSantis responding to Trump's bullshite about Covid response and then come back and post about a lack of thought, honesty and style.
It is impossible to engage a very large faction of Trump superfans about the issues. They cannot stand for any questioning of Trump and his suitability as our best option in '24.
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If these people wanted to win some hearts for desantis, they would go about it by showing that desantis has a plan to deal with the weaponized and corrupt government - or that he even sees the problem (it's a fair question for a candidate supported by !Jeb and paul ryan).
Says the guy whose chosen candidate gifted the country to the establishment in 2020. The establishment was far more powerful and in far more control on Trump's last day in office than it was on his first. Whether that's by way of Trump design or Trump ineptitude, it's factual. But you go on worrying about who says nice things about DeSantis.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:29 pm to NC_Tigah
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There's the problem. RDD is polling about 1/4th that
Why would you respond like this? I'm pretty sure you understand my post. Not that anyone owes a response to someone in a thread, but if you're going to be unresponsive then just don't respond. You're not making a compelling case for Trump superfans being sober/logical.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:33 pm to David_DJS
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Dude, your nose is so far up the arse of an establishment stooge of a different stripe it's actually hilarious to watch.
The GOPe destroyed the party to the point that a black socialist was easily elected
The GOP image was so destroyed that it literally didn't even run a serious opposing candidate
In 2016, these same people thought it appropriate to make ANOTHER frickING BUSH the frontrunner
Those people are trying to get Desantis elected.
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Dude, your nose is so far up the arse of an establishment stooge of a different stripe it's actually hilarious to watch.
It would be impressive if you were intentionally trying to pass off such a huge lie. It's laughable to point to the leader of a populist movement and label him as establishment...while you simultaneously and incessantly complain about the populist movement for not supporting the party leaders.
I just think you don't get it. I think you don't get ankle deep into these issues but somehow feel emboldened to argue anyway.
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But back to how retarded your point was - inferring the majority is always right. Obama's 2 terms proves you're wrong.
You are confusing inferring with implying. And, I was doing neither. I wasn't mocking you because the majority is always right. I was mocking you for whining about Desantis' inability to lead/convince/influence a majority of people...and then concluded that it's the majority's fault for that.
No. Desantis has 2 problems. #1, he's up against a better candidate. #2, he's got significant image issues that prevent him from being taken seriously. He comes across as a small man with an effeminate voice and mannerisms. A lot of people pretty quickly reject that.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:35 pm to POTUS2024
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That tweet is a pretty brutal takedown. I still don't understand why Trump doesn't do a mea culpa on covid stuff.
Combination of ego and delusion. You could do one hell of a psychology study on Trump.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:40 pm to David_DJS
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Do you think a rational science-based argument "fighting back" against all the climate change nonsense would work with any one of about 50% of Democrats that believe in "climate change" like a religion?
Absolutely.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:52 pm to moneyg
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while you simultaneously and incessantly complain about the populist movement for not supporting the party leaders.
What? I asked you in another thread why Trump got McCarthy the speakership because that was a bad "anti-establishment" move. But it's me that supports Republican party leadership?
Seriously, this isn't a throwaway comment from you. Either you're irreparably full of shite, or you should be able to list the Republican party leaders I bitch about Trump superfans not supporting.
Do it.
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It would be impressive if you were intentionally trying to pass off such a huge lie. It's laughable to point to the leader of a populist movement and label him as establishment
To be clear, I label him "establishment" OR argue he's weak/ineffective in combating the establishment. It's one or the other, right?
Posted on 9/14/23 at 5:59 pm to VolcanicTiger
It was never gonna be 15 days lmao. If he believed that then he’s dumber than bricks. Setting that precedent even for an hour was dead wrong
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 9/14/23 at 6:18 pm to David_DJS
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What? I asked you in another thread why Trump got McCarthy the speakership because that was a bad "anti-establishment" move. But it's me that supports Republican party leadership?
They broker no truth that paints dear leader in a contradictory light. All his bad appointments? Not his fault. Lost to a dementia patient? Not his fault.
Its all what they wish things to be not what and who the person truly is.
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:58 pm to thejuiceisloose
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This is a weak deflection, let's see what position carries more weight. Chairman of the covid task force (along with being VP) or President of the United States. Hmm that's a tough one.
Trump was the President of the USA, the buck stops at him. If you give him praise for things done under him you must also acknowledge he was responsible for shortcomings unless you'd like to be a yes man.
I’m on record on this board saying Trump mismanaged much of Covid. I voted for him but I’m not a Trump sycophant. My post was a reply to the Tweet in this thread that said Trump “hired” Fauci. He did not. Fauci was a career bureaucrat and for 38 years led the nation’s infectious disease institute. When the task force was organized Trump had no idea Fauci was a medical tyrant. Few people in America knew who the hell he was.
Trump was rounding up experts in dealing with infectious diseases and pandemics. He listened to people who were supposed to be experts. That’s what a leader does. Nobody expects a president to have intimate knowledge of managing a worldwide health pandemic. A leader builds teams to take care of problems like that. Trump was undermined and blindsided by a vast and organized deliberate pandemic and coverup..
Posted on 9/14/23 at 11:43 pm to POTUS2024
It might be brutal but it isn’t true, Fauci served on a task force under Trump, the only administration he “served” was under Biden, as soon as the election was stolen he was elevated to Chief medical advisor to the president. I don’t like Trumps relationship with the conspirators behind Covid 19 but there’s enough to dislike without making shite up.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:55 am to POTUS2024
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That tweet is a pretty brutal takedown. I still don't understand why Trump doesn't do a mea culpa on covid stuff.
It was almost like he was about to bring it in for a landing with Megyn and apologize… “no one knew what we were dealing with…”
But he never did. He was adamant Desantis was worse on Covid and that he shut Florida down for much longer than a month.
I don’t get it. He could very well have offered an apology and still maintain that at the time, with what we knew, he was making the best decisions he could.
And truthfully, it didn’t come out until after Trump was out what a lying snake Fauci is…
Posted on 9/15/23 at 6:59 am to ibldprplgld
It can’t be reiterated enough, he’s a selfish, egotistical liar who cares about himself and whose only interest is getting the nomination so he can use it in furtherance if his criminal defense.
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