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re: Trump Defunds Planned Parenthood Abortions

Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:34 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:34 am to
Does CNN know?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:34 am to
I absolutely agree no public money should be used for Abortions unless it's to save the life of the mother.

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:34 am to
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That is completely separate from my inquiry as to whether there is any statutory authorization for a regulation requiring separate physical facilities


How else do you properly enforce the Hyde Amendment?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:37 am to
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That is completely separate from my inquiry as to whether there is any statutory authorization for a regulation requiring separate physical facilities
How else do you properly enforce the Hyde Amendment?
One more for the “I do not know, either” column.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84359 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:37 am to
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And another thread with a reasonable, substantive discussion is derailed with emotional hyperbole.


You do know there was video of that, right?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:38 am to
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And another thread with a reasonable, substantive discussion is derailed with emotional hyperbole.
You do know there was video of that, right?
Yes. And the derail progresses.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
21084 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:40 am to
Another promise kept.


SHOCKER: YES [NO]
Posted by MasterMuff
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:43 am to
Good. No organization that donates to political campaigns should receive federal money.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34094 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:51 am to
The replies to his tweet are saddening. There is a lot of misinformed people out there.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:52 am to
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One more for the “I do not know, either” column.


Pp will sue in California and you'll defend the loons opinion when it comes.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48142 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:55 am to
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Good. No organization that donates to political campaigns should receive federal money.


Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:07 am to
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I think that most informed people understand that abortion services are something of a loss-leader for Planned Parenthood and that a requirement for separate physical facilities would undermine that.


Who the hell thinks like this? Loss leader?. As though your flippantly describing something off a grocery store shelf. Sick. And good, I hope it undermines the Frick out of it.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:12 am to
You know we must be in the End Times when a President who is likely not a Christian, is supporting Christian principles more than some "Christian" churches and denominations (e.g. the UMC controversy over whether sin is sin).
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24147 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:18 am to
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The fact that a given reg would accomplish something you like DOES NOT mean that such reg is authorized by statute


Wait, I'm alone in wanting the Hyde amendment enforced? I thought that was a pretty well supported position.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27584 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:21 am to
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Does the Hyde Amendment not already require this?


Yes, and this was done years ago.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
Member since Apr 2015
4463 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:23 am to
This needed to happen. With money being fungible, the Hyde amendment was useless.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27584 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:31 am to
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I think the Hyde Amendment just prohibits federal funds to be used for abortions. But I dont think it required separation of the entries. So PP could essentially subsidize their abortions with the money it received for other services. This way, there have to be 2 entities or accounts so the $$ only goes to the no abortions one.


You might be right about that. As you know, it is nothing to organize a different corporate entity to operate a subset of services.

In the medical arena I’ve been involved in organizing rural health clinics (federal funds and refs) in which the same provider also operates a general clinic where ordinary insurance patients are seen. The two clinics must be in different physical facilities. This requirement is satisfied by separate waiting rooms and separate examining rooms. It becomes basically an interior design issue.

Since we don’t have the actual regs to look at yet, we will have to wait and see.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 11:52 am to
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Who the hell thinks like this? Loss leader?. As though your flippantly describing something off a grocery store shelf. Sick. And good, I hope it undermines the Frick out of it.




I'd also like to see a ban on ALL sales of foetal tissue resulting from abortions.

I'm a cynic. Ever hear about those foetal tissue pills they sell in China?

Not that China doesn't do abortions, but I'd like to know if those pills ever contain DNA from caucasian and black individuals.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74402 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 12:06 pm to
PBS next?
Posted by OnTheGeaux
Har Tavor
Member since Oct 2009
3067 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 12:44 pm to
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Ever hear about those foetal tissue pills they sell in China? 


Ummmm... it ain't just pills in China. It's in YOUR food and has been for awhile now.

"Since most processed foods on the market today are hardly food to begin with, and typically lack any real flavor or appeal on their own, chemical companies like Senomyx are hired to develop artificial ones (which are often deceptively labeled as "natural flavors") in order to make them taste like real food.

But because these ingredients can be legally disguised with vague descriptors like "artificial flavors" and even "natural flavors," most consumers have no idea that these additives, in some cases, are actually made using the cell tissue of unborn babies that were murdered through abortion."

NaturalNews.com

That's one of many reasons why I homestead. To grow and/or kill 75% of what I eat.
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