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re: Trump declass'd everything why does the DOJ and media keep saying the docs are classified?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:58 pm to Turbeauxdog
Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:58 pm to Turbeauxdog
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buckeye_vol Look who comes out of the woodwork.
Commies getting excited about getting Trump.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 3:58 pm
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:58 pm to masoncj
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Once again….this is false.” Ok so what can and what can he not do from a precedent standpoint? and then apply to the last 10 presidents who were not indicted by their successors. That’s why these charges are such horse sh!t ….
fricking what?
The statute people keep referencing states the president CAN declassify documents. It doesn’t state that they automatically ARE declassified. And when you allegedly have someone on tape stating that he chose NOT to declassify them.
That means they aren’t fricking declassified.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:59 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:59 pm to masoncj
FYI, classification actually isn’t relevant to what he was charged with.
Now, the Constitutionality of that particular act of Congress is what is questionable.
Now, the Constitutionality of that particular act of Congress is what is questionable.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:00 pm to masoncj
quote:If honestly doesn’t matter, because he’s not facing charges because of a classification technicality.
Him being in possession makes them declassified.
That said, this doesn’t make any sense at all, since this would mean FORMER presidents can declassify materials by simply possessing them. How does that even make any sense?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:01 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Consider this notice in the Federal Register a blessing?
Did he bless them as declassified in some way before he left office?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:02 pm to Fun Bunch
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Now, the Constitutionality of that particular act of Congress is what questionable.
There are certain laws and ordinances that I think or horseshite. But my opinion of them doesn’t take them off the books lol
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:03 pm to NC_Tigah
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Consider this notice in the Federal Register a blessing?
Consider the fact that CH docs aren’t part of the indictment.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:03 pm to Flats
“ You're getting your money's worth out of that VPN.”
Been viewing this board for years just thought I’d jump in…
I enjoy the discourse and ever since autigers took down their political board this has been the only avenue
You’ll see I am pretty fair minded guy
Been viewing this board for years just thought I’d jump in…
I enjoy the discourse and ever since autigers took down their political board this has been the only avenue
You’ll see I am pretty fair minded guy
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:05 pm to pankReb
quote:Ah, good to know. Which documents are cited?
Consider the fact that CH docs aren’t part of the indictment
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:05 pm to pankReb
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There are certain laws and ordinances that I think or horseshite. But my opinion of them doesn’t take them off the books lol
Agreed. The Epsionage act/18 US 793e is complete horseshite. Should be unconstitutional.
But it currently isn’t and if the indictment is true (big if, prosecutors twist things), it’s not good. Short term wise.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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Ah, good to know. Which documents are cited?
Apparently the Iran war docs are what’s being cited.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:06 pm to pankReb
“That means they aren’t fricking declassified. “
Anything a former POTUS takes with him is declassified …especially if he wants to store them in an underwear drawer
Anything a former POTUS takes with him is declassified …especially if he wants to store them in an underwear drawer
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:13 pm to buckeye_vol
“That said, this doesn’t make any sense at all, since this would mean FORMER presidents can declassify materials by simply possessing them. How does that even make any sense?”
Then have Congress pass a fricking law that’s clear on what is and isn’t allowed on the moving trucks on Jan 20th for ALL president moving forward!
Then have Congress pass a fricking law that’s clear on what is and isn’t allowed on the moving trucks on Jan 20th for ALL president moving forward!
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:13 pm to pankReb
quote:Yeah, but this is one of those things that can be abused by the government if it uses the letter of the law, but is not abuse of it follows the spirit of the law.
There are certain laws and ordinances that I think or horse shite. But my opinion of them doesn’t take them off the books lol
In this case, they only charged him with crimes for the documents that he refused to return, tried to hide them, and then lied about it so they had to actually get a search warrant to retrieve them.
They did not charge him with anything returned before that, even though it took them a year and a half to get those.
Charging him with those that he voluntarily, albeit reluctantly, returned is more letter of the law. Charging him for those refused to returned, lied about it, and then tried to hide the evidence, is much more spirit of the law.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:17 pm to NC_Tigah
For the millionth time, WTF does crossfire hurricane have to do with the documents at issue?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:17 pm to masoncj
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Anything a former POTUS takes with him is declassified
Cite the statute.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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Consider this notice in the Federal Register a blessing?
That notice covers only the referenced "binder" of documents related to Crossfire Hurricane.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:19 pm to Fun Bunch
I don’t think classification is at issue. They don’t have a case there. All president go through this song and dance, and we all know Biden and Clinton weren’t prosecuted for that. Obama kept classified docs in a shelled out Chicago furniture store during this process. They’re trying to make some sort of flimsy obstruction case because his lawyers were negotiating with NARA on what they were getting and what he was keeping.
Remember, an El Salvadoran diplomat could hand him a hand written pupusa recipe and it likely gets classified. The bar for presidential papers is extremely low.
Remember, an El Salvadoran diplomat could hand him a hand written pupusa recipe and it likely gets classified. The bar for presidential papers is extremely low.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:21 pm to masoncj
quote:Oooo. I see you’re just repeating Fitton’s dumb argument, the same dumb argument he used to tell Trump he could keep the documents.
Anything a former POTUS takes with him is declassified …especially if he wants to store them in an underwear drawer
I don’t know if he followed Fitton’s advice, because Fitton convinced him or he was going to do it anyways, but if he had done the opposite of what Fitton advised, he wouldn’t be in trouble now.
The idea that determining that one’s own audio recordings with one’s personal biographer is personal records, means that everything else one keeps is also personal records, no matter what it is, makes literally no sense.
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