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re: Trump declass'd everything why does the DOJ and media keep saying the docs are classified?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:16 pm to RedStickFox
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:16 pm to RedStickFox
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I really can't believe there are people out there that believe the "he declassified them by thinking about it" excuse. He only came up with that excuse after the "fbi planted those docs" excuse fell through.
It's all just so embarrassing and tiresome. EVEN IF ENTIRELY TRUE it just means Trump is really careless, belligerent and stupid. How do people not get fed up making excuses for the dumbest own-goals and self-inflected wounds over and over and over.
Maybe if these docs were supposedly smoking gun evidence of election problems, etc, he might get to argue personal documents. But classified war plans? Come on already, I can't do this any more.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 6:17 pm
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Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:20 pm to RedStickFox
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I really can't believe there are people out there that believe the "he declassified them by thinking about it" excuse. He only came up with that excuse after the "fbi planted those docs" excuse fell through.
Outline and point to me where I can find the exact procedures Obama used to “declassify” all the presidential documents he wanted declassified? W? Clinton?
You’re being played.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:22 pm to 94LSU
Exactly. At one point the argument was "there was a standing order that anything the trump took out of the Whitehouse so that he could read it at home or maralago was automatically declassified."
Which means there was a standing order to declassify the shite BEFORE HE EVEN READ THE DOCUMENT!!!
I mean... how insane do these excuses have to get?
Which means there was a standing order to declassify the shite BEFORE HE EVEN READ THE DOCUMENT!!!
I mean... how insane do these excuses have to get?
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:23 pm to GumboPot
Q said Trump declassified everything. The patriots are in control. Trust the DOJ.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:40 pm to Y.A. Tittle
He is literally on tape saying he didn't declassify a document that he had.
Every single document that was declassified during the Bush, Obama and trump presidency was done so through an executive order. Tru.p even issued an executive order to declassify other material shortly before leaving office but he didn't do so for the stuff he stole.
Every single document that was declassified during the Bush, Obama and trump presidency was done so through an executive order. Tru.p even issued an executive order to declassify other material shortly before leaving office but he didn't do so for the stuff he stole.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:43 pm to RedStickFox
The outgoing President and his staff doesn’t sit indian style on the floor of the White House for a couple months and start a “personal” stack and a “official Presidential” stack and so on and so forth. That process begins in earnest after the President vacates the White House and is done at a mutually agreed upon site of proper security and whatnot. I was criticizing speaking outside of one’s realm of knowledge on these things, but I do recall that baseline information being readily accessible.
The mutually agreed upon site was obviously MAL, and from there, it’s my belief, that the Archives people started nitpicking Trump, looking for a fight. Like they’ve all seemed to do with Trump.
The mutually agreed upon site was obviously MAL, and from there, it’s my belief, that the Archives people started nitpicking Trump, looking for a fight. Like they’ve all seemed to do with Trump.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:47 pm to davyjones
You realize that he is supposedly on tape waiving around a classified document that discusses war planning?
No matter how much you try you can't pretend this was all just a misunderstanding. He purposefully stole this stuff, lied about it, tried to hide it etc. He's a grown man. Quit making excuses.
No matter how much you try you can't pretend this was all just a misunderstanding. He purposefully stole this stuff, lied about it, tried to hide it etc. He's a grown man. Quit making excuses.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 6:57 pm to RedStickFox
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You realize that he is supposedly on tape waiving around a classified document that discusses war planning?
Supposedly? If there’s one thing I know by now not to give a grain of credibility to regarding Trump it’s anything that follows “supposedly.” How anyone could give his pursuers the benefit of the doubt after all the nonsense we’ve seen in the past several years, their relentless unruly and ungoverned attempts to knock him off for good is beyond understanding.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:15 pm to GumboPot
So, I have not listened / read enough yet to know everything that is being said ... can he declassify 5 Eyes docs that are related to say nuking Russia, China or Iran and keep those in a non secure place after he leaves office, then lie (or ask his atty to lie) about having them, and suggest to his atty destroy some of them if they look like something he should not have kept?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:51 pm to davyjones
There are direct quotes from the tape in the indictment. If they are making it up it would be a catastrophe. Face it. You just don't want it to be true, but you know good and well it is.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 7:55 pm to RedStickFox
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There are direct quotes from the tape in the indictment.
They don’t care
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:01 pm to RazorBroncs
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It's not a good look, as well as all the actions he took to move them around and hide them that they have dead-to-rights proof of. I hate it because it's obviously a partisan witch hunt, b
So you acknowledge trump is in deep shite, but it's a witch hunt? You realize Trump had over 1 full years worth of chances for this not to escilate? How is that a witch hunt? Or partisan?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:02 pm to Marcus Aurelius
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can he declassify 5 Eyes docs that are related to say nuking Russia, China or Iran and keep those in a non secure place after he leaves office, then lie (or ask his atty to lie) about having them, and suggest to his atty destroy some of them if they look like something he should not have kept?
No.
While the President has broad declassification power, there are things he needs Congressional authority or agreement to declassify, dealing almost exclusively with national defense matters.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:07 pm to Fun Bunch
And just to be clear, just like the President has broad declassification power, the rights of Congress on national defense matters is also in the constitution, Article 3, Section 8.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:10 pm to GumboPot
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This is the key question that has me the most confused about the entire matter.
What’s really confusing if not a tad disturbing is you have over 40 down voters
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:40 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:14 pm to Joeybd
quote:weird take - MAGA are the most intelligent demo in the country politically.
Basket deplorables = Stupidity.
Any leftism is a mental illness. creating some sort of virtue signaling persona/aesthetic that is a lie designed to hide what an intellectually inferior they are.
living a lie - and living it for nazis and marxist demons - is confirmation. You all have severe mental issues.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:30 pm to GumboPot
1. They’re persecuting me unfairly.
(raises millions of dollars.)
2. I declassified everything because I was president and there’s no rules to doing it whatsoever
(Case dismissed)
(Trump reelected)
(All democrats go to jail)
That’s how I’m hoping it goes.
(raises millions of dollars.)
2. I declassified everything because I was president and there’s no rules to doing it whatsoever
(Case dismissed)
(Trump reelected)
(All democrats go to jail)
That’s how I’m hoping it goes.
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:32 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Outline and point to me where I can find the exact procedures Obama used to “declassify” all the presidential documents he wanted declassified? W? Clinton?
You’re being played.
Do you really think there doesn’t need to be a paper trail?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:37 pm to boosiebadazz
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Do you really think there doesn’t need to be a paper trail?
I don’t know, dude. I had never really heard about anyone being worried about it one way or the other before. Had you?
I know something came up with Bill Clinton once, but I don’t recall anyone making too much of it.
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