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re: Trump declares Biden’s pardons as VOID bc they were done by autopen

Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
22394 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:03 am to
quote:

tread carefully with some of these promises


Just the promise of a promise is good enuff
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82339 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:15 am to
The process is the punishment

If it starts a conversation . . .
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16311 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:18 am to
This is good. Even if it doesn't work you are bringing the fight to them putting them on the back foot. Time to fight fire with fire.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27178 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:34 am to
Do an investigation of crimes. Indict the scum. Then the defense will say we have a pardon. Then fight the authenticity of that pardon.

win/win

If the pardon is overturned because it is shown that Biden didn't actually sign it then that is a win.

If the pardon is not declared null then the public will have been made aware that person X is a criminal and is not receiving justice because of a pardon. smaller win.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143799 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:37 am to
This is classic Trump.

Today the media will focus on DRUMPF putting Liz Cheney in irons while Trump and team focus on Greenland invasion tactics.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:41 am to
Fraud vitiates everything, motherbitches.
Posted by Da Sheik
Mar a Lago
Member since Sep 2007
9270 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:42 am to
Hold on cowboy. The problem isn't the autopen. The problem is Brandon's minions probably signed or got him to sign most of the pardons without his knowledge or consent. Brandon also didn't have the mental capacity to understand what was going on. Not a slam dunk case, but it will be fun to watch the investigation and to see these commies under oath
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16645 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:49 am to
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Didn’t a prosecutor rule that Biden wasn’t mentally fit enough to be prosecuted for holding classified documents? Seems a court might determine that if he wasn’t fit to be prosecuted then he wasn’t fit to pardon anyone???

You seem to be giving a prosecutor’s determination over a singular decision of whether or not to prosecute so much weight that it affects another court’s decision.

It really has zero bearing over anything by else.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2679 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:55 am to
Always deflecting
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13289 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 6:59 am to
I've kicked it around also. I mean if Biden wasn't mentally all there his last year as president then do these pardons count?
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10552 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:03 am to
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Of course the courts will rule that the auto pen is valid but in the meantime making them fight will be fun.

Of course they will. Not only that, they will rule the autopen is sentient and conveys Joe Biden 'essence' & 'intent'... and can continue to sign documents as it wishes.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77631 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:07 am to
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if Biden wasn't mentally all there his last year as president then do these pardons count?

Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:11 am to
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If the Autopen has a time stamp and if it was signed while Biden was out of the country the how can it be valid?


Obama used it while out of the country.

NPR
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20389 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:12 am to
Wait till they find out Biden was wearing an auto-diaper and Hunter was powdering his rash with cocaine to store it for later. Joe’s not the only freaky “sniffer” in the Biden crime family, Hunter likes the crack cocaine.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:27 am to
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If the Autopen has a time stamp and if it was signed while Biden was out of the country the how can it be valid?


THAT would seem to be the issue..... I'm not sure how any reasonable court could justify this.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56550 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:30 am to
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Trump needs to tread carefully with some of these promises. It’s going to breed disappointment when it doesn’t get fulfilled


No, that’s just a little game of law fair you know all fun and games a little bit of shall we say payback
Posted by Average_Comments
ATX
Member since Jan 2024
285 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:32 am to
This is a rabbit trail that won't amount to shite. Should have had him removed after the debate.

The obsession with Biden and his family is hitting trump derangement level.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:32 am to

quote:

quote:
If the Autopen has a time stamp and if it was signed while Biden was out of the country the how can it be valid?


Obama used it while out of the country.


From the article in link'
quote:

Anyway, Obama can always point the congressman to a 2005 memorandum opinion from the Bush Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel.



An opinion from the Justice Department doesn't mean anything, it's just an opinion. This should be challenged to SCOTUS and see if that opinion holds.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182306 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:35 am to
Nothing is going to happen except a drawn out legal battle

Hell, we can't even get the Epstein files

Lets focus resources on issues we can tackle like Adam Schiff or even Swalwell and his spy
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3614 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:44 am to
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This may possibly be the most ironic post that any moron has ever posted on this site...


Don’t let him fool you, he voted for Biden twice which helps understand him
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