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re: Trump campaign advisor George Papadopolous plead guilty on making false statements to FBI

Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:16 pm to
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so we expect more indictments against Manfort? because what he was indicted for has literally nothing to do with Pap's case do we think that the prosecutor is threatening Manafort when he already dropped like 10 charges on him today?


Likely yes. He's taking rock solid stuff to the Grand Jury now.

My guess is he's still building the case for whichever laws he's going to chose for "collusion".
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:18 pm to
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How would Papadopolus know that the “Professor” had substantial connections to Russian government officials?


Because she told him that she did... and he believed her.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:21 pm to
I think it’s a man.

How would Pap know to approach this guy in the first place?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:35 pm to
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I think it’s a man. How would Pap know to approach this guy in the first place?


The "professor" is a woman. He approached her because he thought she would have high reaching connections with the Russian government.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:40 pm to
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The "professor" is a woman.


That’s not what I’m seeing.

I see a reference to another party as “a certain female Russian national.”
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:42 pm to
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That’s not what I’m seeing. I see a reference to another party as “a certain female Russian national.”


You are correct. The "professor" isn't identified as a man or a woman.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:49 pm to
The professor is being identified as Joseph Misfud. I’m not seeing any obvious connections to Russia.

How would Pap know to get in touch with this guy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:50 pm to
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How would Pap know to get in touch with this guy?



i thought that person approached pap, initially

*ETA: no it appears he approached the prof, but only after the prof claimed to have ties to Russia (p5)
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:53 pm to
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But what about intent?


intent to what? he did what he did.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31829 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:00 pm to
The way it’s written I can’t really tell.

Was this stuff just the product of a random conversation?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:03 pm to
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The way it’s written I can’t really tell.

i agree and almost used that as my out to edit, but i took my error like a man and left it up un-edited

quote:

Was this stuff just the product of a random conversation?

the way teh paragraph reads? yes

but since Russia is involved, i seriously doubt it

also, i have to say again, Pap comes off as a complete try hard in that entire indictment

prof won't talk to him at first and he keeps up

he tries to show off that he can get a meeting for literally months until somebody bites...and still doesn't get to go

it's kind of sad to think about all that try hard and it leading to a felony conviction that may ruin his life
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted by TiggerB8t
Member since Oct 2013
691 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:08 pm to
In reading this thread, it appears they really don't have anything on Manafort related explicitly to Trump collusion aside from maybe a couple of emails and or approvals to allow Pap to continue talking with Russians to see what might be available insofar as Oppo Research - but , since they've possibly nailed Manafort on totally different crimes, they use those crimes as leverage to exaggerate Trump or his son on the collusion charge?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:14 pm to
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it's kind of sad to think about all that try hard and it leading to a felony conviction that may ruin his life


The kind of stuff he was suggesting is fricking stupid for a republican nominee for POTUS to do in a time where the media is as aggressively liberal partisan as they are and with a federal government bureaucracy where at least 90% of employees are democrat donors who are looking for anything they can leak to shite all over conservatives/republicans.

He apparently came over from Ben Carson's campaign and I bet that he was very green and just didn't know any better but then again that's something that should be common sense to him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467560 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:16 pm to
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He apparently came over from Ben Carson's campaign and I bet that he was very green and just didn't know any better but then again that's something that should be common sense to him.

i think he just wanted to make a name for himself to secure one of those posh admin jobs

gotta hit grand slams to do that as a nobody
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:27 pm to
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i think he just wanted to make a name for himself to secure one of those posh admin jobs

gotta hit grand slams to do that as a nobody


Oh he may have hit a grand slam alright.

Just call that grand slam a very uncomfortable few news cycles for the guy he worked for.



THere's a whole lot lessons to be learned in this debacle and I'll list them here.

1.) For the emails and meeting with Russians, Never ever leave a paper trail for any unsavory, unethical and possibly illegal things you could find yourself doing and certainly don't do anything to encourage it.

2. ) Don't hire compromised people that could and will have no problem of leaving you out to dry like Sessions and Rosenstein. And get rid of people you don't trust worth a shite like Comey.

3. ) If you want to park money overseas and launder it and skip on taxes, just open a foundation to funnel that money through while doing just enough legit work to keep its cover.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:37 pm to
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My guess is he's still building the case for whichever laws he's going to chose for "collusion".

And if he's fired or forced to resign for his cover-up on Uranium One?

He should have fired the bullet that would inflict the most damage first
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:43 pm to
He served 12 days in jail

12
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/24/19 at 8:45 pm to
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