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re: Trump and John Deere

Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:09 am to
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27236 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:09 am to
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we’ve got to lower taxes and regulations to make US companies more competitive)
Maybe if our Federal State and Local governments were not so big and bloated we could cut the taxation on citizens and businesses.

Therefore the citizens would have more of their hard earned money to buy good and services from the companies that could lower their prices and still make the same profit.

Almost sounds like a win/win for everybody that does not have a ineffective, unneeded & inefficient government job.

In my model all those lazy government employees that were laid off could get a real job with the private companies that are doing better and expanding since their tax burden was lowered and demand for their good and services are up because the citizens have more discretionary income.

Wait..it's almost as if the government IS the problem.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22264 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:28 am to
Trump mentions that his tariff's will help farmers. Any idea how?

Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2890 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:08 am to
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I believe this to be an unfair statement.

When US goods and services and even labor become too expensive, companies like Deere are looking to lower their bottom line so they move production out of the country.

You can blame the government for not creating the proper business environment for US corporations to thrive.

If it takes a Mexican tractor company $100k to build a similar model tractor but if Deere builds it here it may cost $150k. Why? Because local/state/fedgov didn’t foster conditions for Deere to be successful.

But I wholeheartedly agree they are woke af and can go out of business for all I care.


This. I run in circles with a lot of farmers and the vast majority of them have moved on from John Deere due to PRICE. John Deere is trying to lower production costs to recapture market share.
Posted by Deacon
Miami, FL
Member since Dec 2009
250 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:21 am to
Wasnt it JD that said they were going to make their entire fleet all electric by 2030 or something like that?
Posted by DaveyJones12
Member since Dec 2022
328 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:33 am to
mexican tractors 200%

chinese tractors 20%

when are we going to start using our damn brains
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:45 am to
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I hope he keeps throttling Deere, Ford and GM. They are all hypocrites, and I’m glad I drive Toyota.


Toyota is more American than these supposed "American" companies. They employ more Americans and manufacture products here.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26719 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:51 am to
Nothing breaks down like a Deere.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9804 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:06 am to
Farmers hate the JD lockdown on accessing the tractor motor control computer. It's not just the JD update cost, but more important the inability to get a repair update nights, weekends and holidays. Farming is a 24/7 business during planting and harvesting seasons
Posted by DaveyJones12
Member since Dec 2022
328 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:37 am to
you're right but JD won't stop that until the government forces them to. you think trump will force them to?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78373 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:00 am to
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Goods and services too high for them to take in millions of dollars every year? This is nothing but increasing the profit margin
Which is a corporation's goal in a capitalist system, comrade.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
3442 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:07 am to
Illinois ruins everything
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1837 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:45 am to
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I was going to sell my Deere stock but the fukin gov't would get half of it.

Taxes suck, but it shouldn't be anywhere near that bad. Only the gains are taxed, and if you held the stock for more than a year, the GAINS are taxed @ 0%, 15% or at most 20% depending on your filing status and AGI.

FILING STATUS ---- 0% RATE ----15% RATE ------------------- 20% RATE
Single ----------- Up to $44,625 ---- $44,626 -$492,300 ------- Over $492,300
MFJ -------------- Up to $89,250 ---- $89,251 – $553,850 ------- Over $553,850

EXAMPLE: If you held over a year, and if it doubled, the gains are 50% of the sale, and that is taxed max @ 20%, so a 10% tax hit overall on the sale. Not half of it.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 9:49 am
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