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re: True Story about Joe Biden when he was VP

Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73117 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:20 pm to
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ForeverGator
You may not realize it but you come across as very arrogant in this thread.

Would you blurt out in a grocery line that those without college degrees are more gullible? No, you wouldn't. Because it is divisive, wrong, and insulting. A person with a degree in communications, biology, etc isn't any better than a shop owner or an auto worker or a farmer at recognizing misleading political ads.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:21 pm to
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There is enough fake news out there......


A comment made in response to a “factual” post by an anonymous poster citing an anonymous source.

You could choke on the irony.
Posted by ForeverGator
Elite 8 - 2020 Worst SECRant Poster
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:21 pm to
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Are you even remotely interested in hearing out why a person may vote republican?


Absolutely. All I've seen is what Fox News tells them though. I do the same thing for Democrats and CNN. Regurgitation of the "news" is not an original thought.

Most of these threads on this board are started the moment Fox News mentions them on TV. This is not a political board, it's a Trump board. The moment someone says something that you guys don't like, you attack them. It's clear and obvious. Hell, I'm a moderate and I just bring up a few counter arguments.

In my opinion, yes, Republicans are MORE (keyword "MORE") gullible than Democrats. There are many Democrats that are gullible and strictly vote for the party because they want handouts. That's not the point. The point I'm making is statistically, more educated individuals vote Democrat. Why is up for debate, but it's proven.

I'm scared as shite that if Biden wins, the stock market is going to make a knee jerk reaction and people will sell. This is entirely irrational and the economy will wind up being fine no matter who wins. The reaction is another thing. However, Trump just has way too negatives for me. That's my stance.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:22 pm to
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John Bolton has written a book detailing the President’s itinerary that day that totally refutes the story in The Atlantic.


Except Bolton says he was not with him the whole day and can’t refute that he might have said it.

Swing and a miss.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73117 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:29 pm to
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In my opinion, yes, Republicans are MORE (keyword "MORE") gullible than Democrats. There are many Democrats that are gullible and strictly vote for the party because they want handouts. That's not the point. The point I'm making is statistically, more educated individuals vote Democrat. Why is up for debate, but it's proven.
I disagree here. You are using having a college degree as being "educated", but I think this simplifies matters too much. The idea that a blond bimbo who has a communications degree from arizona state is more "educated" than someone who has owned a business for decades is debatable imo. A person with a college degree is obviously more educated in the field they got a degree in than someone who doesn't have a degree in that field, but I don't think having a degree categorically makes you smarter than someone who doesn't.

What does a person with a chemistry degree know about economics, gun laws, abortion, foreign policy, immigration, etc that a person without a degree does not know?

Not to mention the democratic party's main base, black voters, have the lowest rate of college education of any group in america. That doesn't mean they are less worthy or less educated about issues that matter.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35068 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:33 pm to
Even in this less technical setting, I want to believe that you're fundamentally opposed to anonymous allegations/accusations that aren't accompanied by the ability to explore the accuser's credibility and reliability, eh Judge? I've seen a single response solicited from an accuser that made the prosecutor immediately move to dismiss the case....pretty consequential stuff there, to test the accuser's truthfulness.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by ForeverGator
Elite 8 - 2020 Worst SECRant Poster
Member since Nov 2012
13870 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:37 pm to
Not saying an education > small business owner. Just a simple fact that “educated” individuals do vote Democrat. It’s fact. I’m not calling a small business owner a dumbass. It’s a simple fact point. Of course no degree is held equal. An early education degree does not equate to a microbiology degree. Cool. But the likelihood that those individuals will vote Democrat is fact. Many very smart individuals dropped out and made their own business instead. Does that matter for the sake of this discussion? No.

Do you think a small business owner without a business degree will succeed more than a small business owner it without a business degree? I would argue the individual has a more likelihood to succeed since they already understand many of the business principles. Can a small business owner without a degree not figure those out first hand? Sure, but there will be growing pains. This is a little bit of a tangent, but sounds like you’re diminishing degrees as a whole.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73117 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:41 pm to
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This is a little bit of a tangent, but sounds like you’re diminishing degrees as a whole.
No, I am not. I am questioning whether they are accurate proxies for categorically intelligence as opposed to intelligence within a specific field.

Very few people remember what they learned in general education classes their freshmen and sophomore years. I don't.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19510 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:44 pm to
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can’t refute that he might have said it.
But the fact is, he didn’t say it in front of Bolton, who was willing to go on the record. Unlike your unnamed sources.

I suppose you have some explanation as to why the anonymous source misrepresented the reason for the cancellation of the trip to the cemetery, which was related in Bolton’s book, and independently verified by contemporaneous emails?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:48 pm to
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Unlike your unnamed sources


This thread begins with an anonymous poster quoting an anonymous source. Look at the upvotes.

The goose/gander rule applies.

You can’t accept anonymous sources only when they favor what you already believe.

I don’t know if Trump said it or not. And it won’t make much difference to nearly anyone here if he did or didn’t.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66140 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 7:52 pm to
“In my opinion, yes, Republicans are MORE (keyword "MORE") gullible than Democrats.“



And like with all your opinions, facts prove the antithesis is true.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19510 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 8:14 pm to
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This thread begins with an anonymous poster quoting an anonymous source. Look at the upvotes.

The goose/gander rule applies.
Just so we’re clear: you are comparing a thread on a fairly obscure internet message board, that will likely be remembered only by the participants (and even then for a day or so at most), with an article published in a nationally distributed magazine that has been the subject of multiple news stories across the entire spectrum of modern journalism, and that has been quoted in a political ad that is part of a multi-million dollar Presidential campaign?

Is that what you are claiming?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 8:20 pm to
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obscure internet message board


Obviously you are not a premium member.

I’m saying you can’t have it both ways. Period. That’s it.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13366 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Did he rip this paper in front of cameras? Because there's no evidence this ever happened. This is #fakenews.

Trump DID say that those that died during serving our country as losers. This is fact.

Okay you are definitely a troll
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19510 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 8:59 pm to
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I’m saying you can’t have it both ways. Period. That’s it.
You’re also comparing apples to oil freighters.

FWIW, I don’t put any credence whatsoever to the story in OP. Anyone can make up a story to push an agenda.

Difference is, you won’t see his anecdote held up as gospel truth in a political advertisement, and shared by millions of gullible fools on social media simply because it confirms their biases.

You seem to find it fairly credible. Without evidence, as they say.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34720 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:09 pm to
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I think you just defined yourself into that group.


I bet you believe the very fine people and drink/inject bleach hoaxes too. Not just the military hoax. Tell me you do. Please.

Eta: I don't know why I even engage with the lowest-IQ-tier posters on here.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 9:10 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:13 pm to
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don't know why I even engage with the lowest-IQ-tier posters on here.


Birds of a feather . . .
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
2060 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:06 am to
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NOW a fricking leftist wants consistency. frick you


So you’re saying because he’s inconsistent you refuse to be consistent?
This post was edited on 9/12/20 at 12:11 am
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:19 am to
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You can’t accept anonymous sources only when they favor what you already believe.



frick you, you will be touting some anonymous source next week
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125246 posts
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:27 am to
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And by the way, Jason Kander, a real person who goes on the record With facts


The same Jason Kander who claims to be a fifth or sixth generation Missourian depending on the interview and wasn’t even born in Missouri? That Jason Kander?
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