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re: Trigger Warning: UMC nurses in NO vote to unionize
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:48 am to NC_Tigah
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Hospital Admins dramatically and stupidly altered their work environment.
Welcome to any job, anywhere.
This is why you want unionization? Holy shite... If you would have ever managed union personnel, I promise you this would NOT be your view.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 7:50 am
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Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:50 am to 4cubbies
Ironically, unionized nurses drive up wages for non unionized nurses more than they do for themselves. People like me gladly pay more to avoid having to interact with people like you. Which creates a competitive environment that attracts the best nurses.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:51 am to Ribbed
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Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care, lower entry requirements, and higher medical costs.
Is your claim that hospitals with non-unionized nurses charge less for services than hospitals with unionized nurses?
(Didn’t want this to get lost in the shuffle because I’m very curious about the figures that inform your argument)
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:51 am to Ribbed
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But no one is going to tell you anything because you're brave, strong, and fierce.
It's funny, but that self-aggrandizing battle-cry is the mantra of THE MOST pathetic Liberal women in existence.
The more they peacock about themselves, the more pathetic they are in real life.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:52 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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People like me gladly pay more to avoid having to interact with people like you.
You couldn’t afford to interact with me. Thank God.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Welcome to any job, anywhere.
And you have a problem with strangers organizing to battle this. Why?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:53 am to i am dan
quote:Oh my. (A) Your math is off. (B) College coaches are fired for fielding a poor quality product. Hospital CEOs are not.
So do half the college football coaches.
Granted, it's a generalization, but most hospital CEOs transferred to an executive role in virtually any other industry, wouldn't last a year.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:54 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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Ironically, unionized nurses drive up wages for non unionized nurses more than they do for themselves.
Our workers went on strike in 2019, ended up settling for less than the company offered, but got some concessions on scheduling.
Now, half the fleet sits idle because we cant hire people or staff properly.
Union personal suffer from mass psychosis and make poor business decisions because of it.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:54 am to Ribbed
quote:Not in this instance, as has been explained several times here.
Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:55 am to NC_Tigah
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College coaches are fired for fielding a poor quality product
So are CEOs.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:56 am to 4cubbies
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You couldn’t afford to interact with me. Thank God.
You’re a teacher sleeping with the homeless
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:02 am to NC_Tigah
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Unionized nurses means a lower standard of care
Not in this instance, as has been explained several times here.
It will be a very basic minimum of human interaction.
You said youve never managed unionized workers before, are you in for a surprise.
Youll need higher levels of staffing to cover for the laziness.
This post was edited on 12/11/23 at 8:03 am
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Union personal suffer from mass psychosis and make poor business decisions because of it.
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But the AFL-CIO report neglected to include the average salary for all CEOs in the U.S. in 2016, which, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, was $194,350. These same union leaders who criticize the salaries of CEOs earned on average $252,370 in 2016 — nearly $60,000 more than their private-sector counterparts.
Muh CEO’s
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No Rog, in this case, that is simply untrue. Keep in mind, we are (A) talking specifically about Hospital CEOs, not CEOs in general. (B) We are talking specifically about dismissal for fielding a poor quality product, not numbers.
So are CEOs.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:06 am to 4cubbies
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You couldn’t afford to interact with me. Thank God.
Um...you're a school teacher....calm yourself.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:09 am to 4cubbies
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Ochsner’s CEO makes more than $6 million a year.
Odd that women overwhelmingly choose nursing instead of say business administration and management.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:09 am to NC_Tigah
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So are CEOs.
No Rog, in this case, that is simply untrue.
All youre telling me is you dont know anyone in the upper echelons of corporate management.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:09 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:I thought they were "fat cats" crushing the "little man." Seems most of the cats are only carrying a pound or two more.
CEOs in the U.S. in 2016, which, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, was $194,350
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
Sounds like you have an istitutional/ management problem. Maybe, just maybe, the maybe the word gets out to the pool that you try to attract that your place of employment is not all that desirable? Even with the crappy union contract?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Nurses are fairly easily replaced, CEOs not so much.
The CEO might not be easily replaced but a bunch of other admin are.
The cost of hospital administration has skyrocketed compared to the cost of paying nurses and doctors
Hospital admin are the ones benefitting from our healthcare premiums going up
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