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re: Transgenderism in adult males is mostly attributed to an erotic fetish: Autogynephilia
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:58 pm to oogabooga68
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:58 pm to oogabooga68
quote:The social media account was gone, and I was able to find exactly one article that addressed the question that we were examining, so I referenced it. A reader could choose to give it whatever degree of credence might be deemed appropriate.
Liar
But at least you're finally admitting to using Media Matters as a trusted source for information....
A reader could do the same with each the posts that you allege I have made ... if you had the balls to link them. But you cannot do that, because NONE of them would support your misrepresentations and outright lies.
But do keep lying and fishing for those upvotes. I know how much your fragile little psyche needs them.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 2:07 pm
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:01 pm to Lsudx256
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They can try to normalize it by giving it a medical term all day long. It’s mental illness. Plain and simple.
Looks like we got one of them down voting every frickin post.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:01 pm to AggieHank86
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What I see is a person with legitimate mental and emotional health issues, that should be addressed in whatever manner will allow a reasonably-normal life.
No, for a number of reasons:
1. We don't refer to people with "multiple personalty disorder" as "they."
2. We aren't sure if multiple personality disorder even exists.
3. We are relying on people to self-diagnose and be honest about their diagnoses, and we've seen with "emotional support" and even "service" animals that people lie to get what they want (shocker).
4. We have a fairly accurate litmus test for men vs. women.
5. Even if we appease them, there will be someone who wants to take it further.
Levine is a man, no matter who "insists" on anything.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:05 pm to AggieHank86
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I don't live in a binary world
You do, you just don't see it as such.
quote:
Genetically male? Of course. Physically? I personally don't have any desire to look under the hood. Behaviorally? Open to question.
He's a male in all of those instances. Just because he adopts looks and mannerisms of someone or something else doesn't make him that.
Not actually a feline.
This is where we get into the dangers of supporting this behavior as opposed to calling it what it is: a mental disorder (per my previous posts).
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:05 pm to Bard
quote:If we define "mental disorder" as something outside the first or second SD of "normal" human behavior, I suppose that it IS fair to call transgenderism a "disorder," though I think that "abnormality" might be more accurate.
I see your point but I disagree as to that being the best way to view the subject. That one can have a not-so-deadly outcome shouldn't segregate it from being considered a mental disorder (which is what the Left has attempted to do), especially to the point where it's being promoted to children as safe and normal.
I just don't see a lot of benefit arguing about the label (and the Left is just as guilty as the Right on that point). The more-important issue is trying to find the most effective means of addressing the issue FOR EACH PERSON. I don't see a blanket "surgery" as being the "right" answer to any greater extent than a blanket "deal with it, dude."
quote:And here is where we keep hitting a bump in the discussion. I just do NOT see transgender issues as being related to drag queen performances (whether reading to kids or dancing on stages), at all. There is almost zero overlap between the two populations, and almost EVERYTHING about them are completely different.
That we're doing the former instead of the latter is why some are so weak as to promote things like Drag Queen Story Hour as being a positive.
You might as well compare birds to maxi-pads, because both have "wings."
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:08 pm to AggieHank86
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And here is where we keep hitting a bump in the discussion. I just do NOT see transgender issues as being related to drag queen performances (whether reading to kids or dancing on stages), at all. There is almost zero overlap between the two populations, and almost EVERYTHING about them are completely different.
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And yet they all have a grooming component to it Hank... Why you cannot see that means you are either too close to the situation OR you have a mental disconnect in this area...
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:09 pm to Bard
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Not actually a feline.
If that thing got shot, I am not certain anyone would be convicted...
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:13 pm to AggieHank86
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just do NOT see transgender issues as being related to drag queen performances (whether reading to kids or dancing on stages), at all. There is almost zero overlap between the two populations, and almost EVERYTHING about them are completely different.
Again you're speaking on a subject that you have no experience nor knowledge and NO living in a neighborhood around gay people does NOT make you an expert. First off you're WRONG... AGAIN.
THERE ARE MOST DEFINITELY DRAG QUEENS that believe they are also transgender. There is way more than zero overlap... frankly your percentage is so off it's either you lying or honestly don't have a clue.
I ask you once more to stfu about issues that you have no real life experience in.. Am I clear this time
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:20 pm to oogabooga68
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There is NOTHING to be gained by entertaining and enabling someone's mental illness.
And there it is...
For some reason our "resident lawyer" can't seem to understand this! 
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:23 pm to AggieHank86
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If we define "mental disorder" as something outside the first or second SD of "normal" human behavior, I suppose that it IS fair to call transgenderism a "disorder," though I think that "abnormality" might be more accurate.
You're being too generous. An "abnormality" in behavior would be something like mild (or possibly even midling) OCD. A "mental disorder" goes well beyond that, especially when a primary component of that disorder is to demand the propagation of a distorted view of reality.
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And here is where we keep hitting a bump in the discussion. I just do NOT see transgender issues as being related to drag queen performances (whether reading to kids or dancing on stages), at all. There is almost zero overlap between the two populations, and almost EVERYTHING about them are completely different.
They are not different. They are people promoting themselves as sexualized members of the opposite sex and demanding the world agree with them. Where it comes into play with kids is that kids are HIGHLY susceptible to influences (see: Monster Study). Pushing on a child the rhetoric that such behavior is healthy and normal then begins pushing them to question themselves well before they understand even the basics of the questions their asking.
To promote this to children is the height of irresponsibility, at best. The promotion of mental disorders and/or potential grooming them for sex, at worst. There is no middle ground here and only someone with extreme bias towards transgenderism could see it any differently (read: defense mechanism).
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:24 pm to SOSFAN
quote:Your opinions are quite clear. Repeat them as often as you feel the need.
Am I clear this time
Since you are neither transgender nor a drag queen (as you have told us, repeatedly and ad nauseum), I find myself wondering why merely living in proximity to (and/or interacting with) drag queens and/or MTF Transgenders would make you an expert.
In other contexts, you have made it QUITE clear that living in close proximity or having close interaction would not render anyone ELSE an "expert."
Is this "expertise by osmosis" only available to homosexuals?
Odd, but I bet it is handy.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:26 pm to Bard
quote:I appreciate your thoughts. It is nice having a civilized discussion. Kudos.
Bard
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:26 pm to the_truman_shitshow
So mental illness. Untreated mental illness. Even worse, the illness is accommodated and encouraged, the opposite of what’s needed. Clear violation of the Hypocratic Oath.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:33 pm to mtntiger
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It's far simpler than that.
They are gay, and would rather pretend to be a woman who dates men than admit that they're gay.
No. That’s stupid. You think admitting they are transvestites is to save them the embarrassment of admitting they are gay?
The shite you read on this site.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:26 pm to AggieHank86
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Since you are neither transgender nor a drag queen (as you have told us, repeatedly and ad nauseum), I find myself wondering why merely living in proximity to (and/or interacting with) drag queens and/or MTF Transgenders would make you an expert.
I'm so tired of your lies. I've told you that I was involved with the drag world thru a close friend. You know I'm gay and have been in the bar scene previously for many years. Your knowledge is from living in a neighborhood that had gay people. You make statements, such as drag queen and transgender have zero overlap which I know is a lie. Again you have zero knowledge so stfu with your stupid, asinine statements.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:28 pm to AggieHank86
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Since you are neither transgender nor a drag queen
Are you?
What gives you special knowledge over a gay dude? The same person that gives you more knowledge of blackness than a black poster on this board?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:28 pm to SOSFAN
I'm so tired of your lies
And it only works for you.
thx
quote:Friend, you really need to think about the difference between a "lie" and a difference of opinion. You are making yourself look a bit hysterical.
I'm so tired of your lies
quote:So, you observed from close proximity. Osmosis.
I was involved with the drag world thru a close friend
And it only works for you.
thx
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So, a gay guy who is neither transgender nor a drag queen can gain expertise about transgenders and drag queens by interacting with transgenders and drag queens, but a straight guy does not gain similar knowledge about homosexuals by virtue of living with and interacting with homosexuals.
What gives you special knowledge over a gay dude?
OK. "Expertise by Osmosis" works only for gays. Makes PERFECT sense.
quote:Never said that. I answered a HYPOTHETICAL question presented by TBird. I never claimed any higher level of knowledge regarding Black folks.
The same person that gives you more knowledge of blackness than a black poster on this board?
You fabricate stories almost as well as little Ooga.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:57 pm to AggieHank86
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, a gay guy who is neither transgender nor a drag queen can gain expertise about transgenders and drag queens by interacting with transgenders and drag queens, but a straight guy does not gain similar knowledge about homosexuals by virtue of living with and interacting with homosexuals.
Are you retarded? Or just a liar?
What part of " I was part of the drag queen world thru a friend that is a drag queen" do you not understand. I've done drag twice, for a aids benefit, and also was part of Lady Chablis, 2nd to only RuPaul as far as being known, and have seen it all. You have zero clue of what you say so again stfu.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:11 pm to AggieHank86
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I never claimed any higher level of knowledge regarding Black folks.
Can someone do a wellness check on Hank?
I think he's finally gone off the fking rails .
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