re: Transgenderism in adult males is mostly attributed to an erotic fetish: Autogynephilia

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There's not much need to delve deeper than this. If a person has anorexia, we understand that they're unwell. If a person see themself as an entirely different gender, we're supposed to think they've got it all figured out?

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I've said this for years.

An anorexic can be objectively considered emaciated, yet they perceive themselves as obese. This is an internal dysphoric view of self which defies reality.

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As I see it, the anorexic is eventually going to die from her condition, if she cannot be conditioned to start consuming enough calories to allow her body to continue to function and renew itself.

Transgenderism is somewhat different. No male is going to die from thinking he is female, or vice versa. (Yes, there is a high suicide rate, which I will address below). He is not going to die from reassignment surgery OR from not having reassignment surgery.

For a transgender, the question is not "How do we keep this person from starving to death," but rather "How do we help this person have as normal a life as can be had by someone as confused as he?" In some instances, I agree with the notion that therapy WITHOUT surgery may well be the BETTER way to help that person, but I also believe that there are instances in which surgery IS the better way to help that person. Lastly, I think that the medical field in the last two decades or so has allowed the pendulum to swing MUCH too far in the direction of "surgery every time."

I hate to be trite, but think back to Silence of the Lambs. With Lector's advice, they tracked Jame Gumb by looking at the psych evaluations of those person who were REJECTED for surgery. I am not saying that anyone seeking reassignment surgery is a likely serial killer by any means, but the sequence of events DOES seem to indicated that there are circumstances in which surgery is NOT the universal panacea.

So, suicide. The simple fact is that transgender folks often have MAJOR mental/emotional problems. How not, when their hormones and the like are so damned screwed up, given that the most-likely primary cause is hormonal imbalances in utero that create lifelong physical differences? How do you lessen the instance of suicide? It seems to me that you do so with individualized treatments and counseling (including serious inquiry as to whether reassignment is indeed the best option), rather than through the one-size-fits-all panacea of reassignment surgery.

I will save some effort for one of you.

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Adult males adult males who have "transitioned" to the female gender... had originally exhausted all other forms of arousal...to satisfy their degenerate fantasies.

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Scary thought process. But valid theory. (Sodom and Gomorrah? Meh. Days of Enoch and Noah? What happened again? )

This issue is more about the PUBLIC flaunting AND normalizing of bizarro world kink -- and demanding "muh-RESPECT!!" in schools no less.

Before the mid-1960s "muh-Sexual Liberation!!" Crusade, our institutions and faith-driven firewalls had done all that could be done to help maintain boundaries in the "normal-natural" range.

Thanks to orchestrated demolition and subversion of "normal," and "natural" (see the rigged "sex research" of the likes of Kinsey, Masters & Johnson, and mainstreaming of "Anything-Goes!" of Dr. Ruth's TV programming), rejecting the sick or bizarre is now "discrimination" and "intolerance."

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Is this thing a man or a woman?

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Well, I personally would not refer to another person as a "thing," for starters.

What I see is a person with legitimate mental and emotional health issues, that should be addressed in whatever manner will allow a reasonably-normal life.

Levine will insist that "she" is a "woman," and the majority here will insist that "he" is a "man."

I don't live in a binary world, and I tend to think that the answer is somewhat more complex than that ... as set forth a couple of posts above.

Genetically male? Of course. Physically? I personally don't have any desire to look under the hood. Behaviorally? Open to question.

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Well, I personally would not refer to another person as a "thing," for starters.

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But you have no problem labeling people as "Nazis"....ok, cool......

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Well, I personally would not refer to another person as a "thing," for starters.

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But you ARE OK with slandering tons of people as White Supremacists based on the words of a Media Matters article, amirite?

Stop with the holier-than-thous bullshite, Hank, no one buys what you're selling....

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But you ARE OK with slandering tons of people as White Supremacists based on the words of a Media Matters article, amirite?

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Never happened, Ooga.

I said that ONE article described ONE person as having published "White Nationalist" content (not supremacist).

Why do you lie? Does your fragile little personality need the upvotes THAT badly? It is really like breathing for you, isn't it?

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Never happened, Ooga.

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You are a godamned liar, Hank.

Own it....

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I said that ONE article described ONE person as having published "White Nationalist" content (not supremacist).

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Liar

But at least you're finally admitting to using Media Matters as a trusted source for information.....

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need the upvotes THAT badly?

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Aw.....sad little man is crying out for upvotes.

You like to play Internet Troll but you don't want to face the consequences of being an Internet Troll.....

No. It’s a messed up mentally ill brain. No other questions. These people need to be in hospitals.