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Trafalgar Poll Question

Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:33 am
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:33 am
So is this poll legit or not? I’m still confused on what the poster earlier was trying to say about them using false data.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68303 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:34 am to
if trump is leading it is legit
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19351 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:34 am to
I think their official ones are legit. If I read correctly, someone posited a fraudulent Trafalgar poll and Nate Silver ran with the data.

Now he's bitching because he was duped.

I think that's why Cahaley came out and said that people can take things NOT posted by them but attributed to Trafalgar at their own risk.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:35 am to
Well, he is, so you're saying is legit?
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:36 am to
On this day in 2016 Trump was +300 in the gambling market. Today he is +188. 67% of the bets coming in we’re on Trump but the action has moved.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68303 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Well, he is, so you're saying is legit?




actually yes

but I think it is the most accurate as well after watching the trafalgar guy in an interview explain why they are better
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:37 am to
Correct.

Also Nate has big beef with Trafalgar. After Nate coitized one of their polls, Cahaley came out and said they were the most accurate pollster in 2016 and they would be again this year and then he tried to get Nate to bet on it, to which he declined.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:37 am to
quote:

67% of the bets coming in we’re on Trump but the action has moved.
What does this mean in plain English?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72619 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:38 am to
trump is +169 on BOOKMAKER right now
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33075 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:38 am to
I bet 10 bucks on Trump to win every swing state for 3k payout.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6640 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I think their official ones are legit. If I read correctly, someone posited a fraudulent Trafalgar poll and Nate Silver ran with the data.

Now he's bitching because he was duped.

I think that's why Cahaley came out and said that people can take things NOT posted by them but attributed to Trafalgar at their own risk.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


This is how I took it. Seems like the ones they post on their sites are the ones they back. The others almost sounded like they were experimental polls just playing around with the demos. I could be completely wrong though
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

So is this poll legit or not? I’m still confused on what the poster earlier was trying to say about them using false data.




They were one of the most accurate pollsters in the 2016 presidential election and the 2018 midterm elections.

They poll by automated phone calls and the poll questions are short and sweet. This method tends to keep people from hanging up on them. Trump voters are usually busy and just don't want to put up with long polling questions so they get filtered out of MSM polls that are long, drawn out and have leading questions. Trafalgar attempts to avoid those issues that leads to poor polling numbers.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72619 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:41 am to
BOOKMAKER has bets for the EV in many states also. I think i will make some easy money on certain states.

damn some pretty good odds also
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
24987 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:43 am to
Given how wrong the "legit" ones were in 2016, I'd say it doesn't really matter.

You'd have to be headless to look around at all the relevant variables and think Biden is actually up by 4-6 points in all the battleground and "battleground" states.

Just my $.02
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:44 am to
quote:

So is this poll legit or not?


What do you Mean? It was one of the only Pollsters that got the 2016 election correct.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6562 posts
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:46 am to
They do shorter polls and a mix of phone/online/etc. to try and get more average Joe's to participate in them, which of course would give you a more accurate result

Think about it, who answers these other 50-question phone polls?

1. Dems that love telling you how liberal they are
2. Never-Trumpers that love telling you they're flipping
3. Old People on both sides

Of those 3 groups, what kind of responses would you expect to get on a poll where 20 out of 50 questions are about Covid?
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