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Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:08 am to HempHead
To the question of why can't he just stay silent. His Twitter and his mouth are his only weapons to fight the narrative. The repubs in congress certainly aren't voicing loud opposition to the never ending accusations and witch hunts. Have you heard any of them tell Dems to put up the evidence or shut up? Nope. If Trump stays silent, there is no vocal pushback. You don't control the narrative and you end up stuck in defense.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:08 am to HempHead
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If charges were brought out of nowhere without any prior discussion, it would look more like a partisan hit-job.
Of course it would if there were no concrete evidence to back it up. Seems to me you don't want a 'fictitious narrative' out there - that is the DEM playbook, not ours.
If no real evidence, keep silent.
If real evidence, keep silent until you have enough to announce a formal action - indictment or Independent Counsel.
NOTHING so far makes me feel good about this twitter shite.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:09 am to TideCPA
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Obama (or someone in his administration) legally tapped Trump's phone.
That's a bingo.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:09 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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The repubs in congress certainly aren't voicing loud opposition to the never ending accusations and witch hunts. Have you heard any of them tell Dems to put up the evidence or shut up? Nope.
Because they are on the same team
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:10 am to TideCPA
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This is crazy. The way I see it there are three possible scenarios here, two of which are terrifying and one of which is troubling. 1. DJT is lying about this. Falsely accusing a former president of something this serious would effectively end any credibility he has. 2. Obama (or someone in his administration) illegally tapped Trump's phone. This would be huge. 3. Obama (or someone in his administration) legally tapped Trump's phone. This would be significant news, but not necessarily groundbreaking depending on the evidence that led to the wiretapping.
Heard this morning on Fox that the Obama Administration requested a FISA Warrant to tap Trump back in October, and was denied. They renewed the request in Nov. (post election) and got it.
Obama/Jarret will say that there was ample evidence that Trump/Russians was a National Security risk to the degree that tapping was justified. Obama is a cunning conspirator; they best.
Trump has no choice to run with this. Keep the opposition on their heels, while advancing the purge and Policy agenda.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:12 am to TideCPA
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2. Obama (or someone in his administration) illegally tapped Trump's phone. This would be huge.
This won't end well.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:13 am to The Baker
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So yes... it is indeed your style.
Nope, you'll need to show me all the times you've agreed with Obama for your nonsense to be correct.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:13 am to ChineseBandit58
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that is the DEM playbook, not ours
bullshite. Your team took part in orchestrating this. Your role is to bend over and take what the progressives give and thank them for it.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:14 am to cajuncarguy
It was more than likely legal, at least in terms of acquiring approval, but it is the nature of what is being done with the info (these leaks are illegal!) that would cause trouble.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:14 am to rocket31
Obama hacked our election.
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:14 am to RCDfan1950
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Heard this morning on Fox that the Obama Administration requested a FISA Warrant to tap Trump back in October, and was denied. They renewed the request in Nov. (post election) and got it.
So lets say he legally tapped DJT.
Wouldn't this mean they have the "evidence" that they colluded with Russia by now? If so, where is it?
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:16 am to RCDfan1950
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Obama/Jarret will say that there was ample evidence that Trump/Russians was a National Security risk to the degree that tapping was justified.
Exactly. Trump can try all he wants to create a distraction, but this tactic will probably not derail an independent investigation into his Russian connections.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:16 am to TideCPA
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3. Obama (or someone in his administration) legally tapped Trump's phone. This would be significant news, but not necessarily groundbreaking depending on the evidence that led to the wiretapping.
If you don't think using the NSA and the courts to conduct opposition research is not a massive scandal, I don't know what to tell you. The wiretap might be completely legal but if you are the sitting president and you are signing off on the use of the federal govt to obtain political information on an opponent via the court system, look out!
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:16 am to The Baker
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Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:17 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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signing off on the use of the federal govt to obtain political information on an opponent
What if there is compelling evidence that said opponent was colluding with a foreign government to influence the election? I would say the opponent should "watch out" in that case.
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:17 am to Seldom Seen
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Obama hacked our election.
Well, tried but failed.
"But, muh Russians?"
This post was edited on 3/4/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:18 am to TxTiger82
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Exactly. Trump can try all he wants to create a distraction, but this tactic will probably not derail an independent investigation into Trump's Russian connections.
Maybe. But we all know this Russian thing is a bunch of crap.
The real story is the Obama administration leaking Intel on a wire tap at Trump tower
Posted on 3/4/17 at 8:19 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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So lets say he legally tapped DJT. Wouldn't this mean they have the "evidence" that they colluded with Russia by now? If so, where is it?
So, as a Potus-Elect, Trump has no right or responsibility to begin laying a relationship groundwork with Russian (and all Countries) counterparts? That is no crime; in fact, it would be malfeasant for Trump not to get up and running.
Unless they have Trump on tape taking money. Hell, he openly said that "if the Russians have stuff on Hillary, I hope they release it". Vintage Trump. But damn sure no crime.
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