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re: Too Left, Too Right - Nowhere to Stand

Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73248 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:57 pm to
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Meanwhile, Trump and his faction have pushed the GOP into hard-right territory, openly challenging democratic norms, rejecting institutions, snatching up people in the middle of day for free speech in the name of terrorism.


hyperbolic nonsense
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 6:58 pm to
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It's super-virtuous to be a moderate


What was it Douglas Murray said in the debate with Dave Smith last week?

Libertarians are political bisexuals

Substitute moderates and it still works
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46401 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:09 pm to
These days, it's mostly about Dirty vs. Clean. I want a clean, streamlined government. I mean, what is Right vs. Left about these issues:

1) Elimination of governmental waste and fraud
2) Having secure borders
3) Having Free & FAIR Trade
4) Having a strong energy program
5) Keeping Biologically-born men out of women's sports

Etc. Etc.

Seems a lot more like common sense than ideology to me, and I think that's why the term "80/20 issue" is being used a lot today. There's nothing inherently "magical" about being known as a moderate. Imo, the key is doing what's right, and being honest and clean.

Maybe we will get there one day.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27004 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Where is the middle ground?


Stop being a pussy and realize that countries do have a right to determine which foreigners it wants in its country.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59219 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:18 pm to
That’s the media narrative, not real life.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86216 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:19 pm to
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Meanwhile, Trump and his faction have pushed the GOP into hard-right territory, openly challenging democratic norms, rejecting institutions, snatching up people in the middle of day for free speech in the name of terrorism. Where is the middle ground?



None of this is true.

Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35584 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

It feels like there’s no real political center left in the U.S. anymore

There isn't. And there isn't room for one right now.

Pick a side or sit and shut it. No offense intended, just a phrase.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18635 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:21 pm to
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It feels like there’s no real political center left in the U.S. anymore.


Have you heard of Donald Trump?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35786 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Meanwhile, Trump and his faction have pushed the GOP into hard-right territory


Are you sure?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89284 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14680 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:37 pm to
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Meanwhile, Trump and his faction have pushed the GOP into hard-right territory, openly challenging democratic norms,


The democratic norms that have us 30 trillion dollars in debt, while spending billions around the world to prop up socialist, Islamist, hedonist, sodomist, and imperialist ideals?

quote:

rejecting institutions,


Institutions such as importing millions of uneducated violent illegals, and bestowing upon them not only thousands of taxpayer dollars, healthcare, education, housing, food and clothing, but also the rights and privileges of actual American citizens?

quote:

snatching up people in the middle of day for free speech in the name of terrorism.


For free speech? If you are in this country illegally, you are a criminal. If you came here on a visa in order to get an education, fomenting dysfunction and strife is not part of that education.

What’s so hard right about using the Constitution and a little common sense?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23609 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Where is the middle ground?


Roadkill kneeling for Black Marxist Lives.


Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23189 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:44 pm to
You only think Trump is “hard right” since the democrats went off the charts full commie.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
23609 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:44 pm to
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“I voted for Trump, but…”


Any vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the left or the right wing of the Deep State. The very best outcome we can hope for is some populist pushback against the reigning political establishment in the Potomac Beltway.

Such populism is going to arise from the Bernie Bro left or the MAGA right. Choose accordingly because it is what it is.



This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89284 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Trump is a 90’s era democrat.


wrong

90's democrats were still for open borders and fake free trade and not for cutting corporate and ordinary tax rates. they also were for abortion and gun bans. and were not for conservative scotus judges. trump is opposite all that

nice try tho.
This post was edited on 4/16/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50952 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 7:56 pm to
Think back to a happier time, like in 2017 through 2019. No new wars, booming economy, low unemployment, low interest rate loans, then, boom!

We get Biden through fraud, and in four years they have destroyed the US and would keep destroying everything until the society breaks down and they clamp down with the rule of law, or edict, or...force.

I want it to get turned around. Every company that has faced the edge of ruin and come back has had to make tough decisions. That's where we are. Trump is not kicking the can down the road that the uniparty swamp has been all too happy to kick down the road. Well, the day has come. It is sorely needed. There will be sacrifices.

Get some backbone, man.

Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:00 pm to
Trump is a pro union blue dog Democrat. Stop being a gullible retard.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8333 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:01 pm to
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Meanwhile, Trump and his faction have pushed the GOP into hard-right territory


more "muh both sides" horse shite

There is no comparison and the only people who try to make it are weaker leftists who don't admit that is what they are.
Posted by TrailDawg77
Member since Oct 2018
786 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:02 pm to
You're a bitch
Posted by SaintsReportExile
Member since Nov 2023
683 posts
Posted on 4/16/25 at 8:12 pm to
Ok dude, right right in this country is not too far right at all.

It's the left that went full retard. They want chicks with dicks, upset when you deport known gang members, to try to transition kids in elementary school.

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