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re: Tommy Robinson arrested again
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Lol. He was arrested because they were harassing him using Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Bill and questioning him and detaining him based on suspicion of him being involved in terrorism.
Take the L, bubba.
Take the L, bubba.
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Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Was he arrested for TERRORISM
Then
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He wasn't arrested for TERRORISM. I was right on calling that bullshite out
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:47 am to the808bass
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He was arrested because they were harassing him using Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Bill
Which does not implicate terrorist behaviors directly
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and questioning him and detaining him based on suspicion of him being involved in terrorism.
They didn't believe he was involved in terrorism. Cops lie and abuse powers.
They used a BS law to detain him and then lead him to commit a crime, so they could arrest him. That's what LEO does.
However, regardless of how improper and terrible LEO was, the fact remains what he was arrested for was in no way TERRORISM.
He was arrested for not giving his passcode to his phone to LEO. Please explain how that is terrorism.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 7:48 am
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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He wasn't arrested for TERRORISM. I was right on calling that bullshite out.
He was arrested under the auspices of curtailing terrorism. You are being pedantic and I'm sure you understand what people are saying which is that their legal system is using laws issued allowing them to curtail terrorism to go after Tommy Robinson.
That is exactly, factually what is happening.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:52 am to joshnorris14
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You are being pedantic and I'm sure you understand what people are saying which is that their legal system is using laws issued allowing them to curtail terrorism to go after Tommy Robinson.
I never disagreed with that but that is not in any way the argument that I made.
They've created a logical fallacy by appealing to emotion by using a scary word when everyone involved knew that it was not applicable to the actual situation. It's intellectually dishonest and exactly the behavior that I was calling out in this thread.
Had they been honest he would have said I was arrested for not giving my passcode to my phone but that would not have led to the emotional reactions to increase the spread of the story on social media. They knew specifically what they were doing and lots of people are still falling for it
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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We can confirm that Tommy Robinson has been detained by Police using powers afforded to them under the Terrorism Act 2000.
'That's right, you read that correctly, Tommy is being held by Police using counter terrorism legislation.
Meanwhile the London police have not designated the Muslim knifing and murdering of 3 children and attempted murder of 9 others as linked to terrorism.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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I never disagreed with that
L fricking OL
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They've created a logical fallacy by appealing to emotion by using a scary word
Did the police or Tommy introduce the idea of terrorism to the discussion?
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:57 am to BugAC
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Meanwhile the London police have not designated the Muslim knifing and murdering of 3 children and attempted murder of 9 others as linked to terrorism.
They haven't done that to Tommy Robinson either.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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They used a BS law to detain him and then lead him to commit a crime, so they could arrest him. That's what LEO does.
A BS law that is based on the idiocy that we all knew to exist in the UK. Which is why it was called out in the beginning.
You’re wrong. And you were wrong. And you should study why you can’t admit that you were wrong.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:59 am to the808bass
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Did the police or Tommy introduce the idea of terrorism to the discussion?
LEO is bad and needs to be reigned in. Irrelevant to the logical fallacies in the reporting.
What definition of "terrorism" in UK laws would fit with the actions he was arrested for? If your argument is correct, I'm sure you can fine a definition of terrorism that fits.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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knew what they were doing
Spell this out
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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What definition of "terrorism" in UK laws would fit with the actions he was arrested for?
I don’t have to pretend to be the police, bro. I didn’t initiate the stop. I don’t believe in questioning my political opponents on trumped up charges in order to harass them.
The Kent police detained him on suspicion of terrorism. We now know this. Well, everyone except you knows it.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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They haven't done that to Tommy Robinson either.
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Following his initial detention, Robinson was arrested for “frustration of a schedule 7 examination” and later released on bail as investigations continue.
Well, if we are to believe the police. They are continuing to investigate him for … terrorism.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:05 am to NIH
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Spell this out
Use scary/inflammatory words to elicit emotional responses via framing
Secure more spreading of the half truth (being very generous here) due to the emotional reacts (primarily anger)
You see this all the time with the echo chamber "reporting" legal cases, where they curate a snippet of one paragraph and then expound on it in an inflammatory way to get people angry and spreading it online, even if their commentary is completely batshit/wrong. Julie Kelly in particular has become an icon of this.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:06 am to the808bass
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Well, if we are to believe the police. They are continuing to investigate him for … terrorism.
Nowhere in that quote confirms this link to terrorism.
Nowhere in the story you linked confirms a link to terrorism.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:07 am to Night Vision
I pray for Tommy as I pray for Trump and every other brave soul who suicidally pushes back against The Leviathan State.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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Use scary/inflammatory words to elicit emotional responses via framing
Yes. That’s exactly what the police did. You accurately described the situation.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
From page 2
SECSolomonGrundy wrote:
SFP responded with:
On page 8 - in response to 808, SFP wrote:
SECSolomonGrundy wrote:
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Even if what your link says is true, i think people at a peaceful protest can watch a banned movie and still be peaceful. Where is the lie you are claiming?
SFP responded with:
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"He was arrested for TERRORISM" Did you even read the post?
On page 8 - in response to 808, SFP wrote:
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He wasn't arrested for TERRORISM.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm going to guess UK libel laws don't need as high a threshold as US libel laws.
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:09 am to jimmy the leg
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He wasn't arrested for TERRORISM.
He wasn't arrested for TERRORISM
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