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re: Tommy Robinson arrested again

Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:17 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475999 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:17 am to
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Are you denying it?

Uh, yeah.

I'm still for small government and the promotion of capitalism/trade as one of my primary focuses.

I want to gut federal spending.

I want to eradicate the Police State and the return of constitutional protections against state encroachment into our personal lives.

Now, less government will mean more social freedom too, which I've always supported. That will be spun as "Leftism" but that's part of libertarianism (and always was there. It's no change).
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44133 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:22 am to
Dude, you used:

quote:

the anti-racism group Hope Not Hate.


as a source, and then doubled down on it.

Congrats on losing your virginity though.

Just don’t let her cut off your jewels.


Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62890 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:30 am to
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I discussed civil liability, which isn't even a government issue. Discussion =/= support.



You created the thread

Back to the topic, I think you are getting caught up in the semantics vs. reality.

I think the better description of you isn't necessarily a leftist...but a progressive. Your tactics to argue by making false or misleading claims, trying to redirect the argument, focusing on small details rather than the true subject being discussed is very in-line with your modern progressive who has no interest in the truth. This is how you approach every topic.

People who call you a leftist are just making a logical leap about why you do that. I think they are right. The truth is the truth, whether you admit it or not.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475999 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:32 am to
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as a source, and then doubled down on it.

Congrats on losing your virginity though.

Just don’t let her cut off your jewels.



So what policies did this implicate, specifically?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475999 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:34 am to
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You created the thread

To discuss personal responsibility, yes.

quote:

I think the better description of you isn't necessarily a leftist...but a progressive.

Very tomato/tomato, but still lol-worthy

quote:

Your tactics to argue by making false or misleading claims, trying to redirect the argument, focusing on small details rather than the true subject being discussed is very in-line with your modern progressive who has no interest in the truth. This is how you approach every topic.

So you can't find any policies, and are creating a straw man about alleged rhetoric style.

So you really don't have any evidence of any political shift, do you?

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62890 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:10 am to
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So you can't find any policies, and are creating a straw man about alleged rhetoric style.



quote:

So you really don't have any evidence of any political shift, do you?



I didn't suggest you have shifted policy. I've commented on how you've changed overall. And, I clarified what I think most people notice. You are trying to restrict the conversation to your political stances which we know you aren't honest about (as evidenced by you not being willing to admit that you were supporting civil liability for those not vaccinated)

I don't know that you've shifted much politically. I think you've always been on the left. I just find you have zero intellectual honesty these days and your posts are almost always driven by an emotional response to something. It forces you to take absurd stances as you try to back into a logical argument.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128705 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:51 pm to
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I know you typically are on the "back the blue" side of things,


Welp. This shows how much you’re paying attention. Good effort, though.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77181 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:56 pm to
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as evidenced by you not being willing to admit that you were supporting civil liability for those not vaccinated
I remember those threads.

quote:

I don't know that you've shifted much politically. I think you've always been on the left. I just find you have zero intellectual honesty these days and your posts are almost always driven by an emotional response to something. It forces you to take absurd stances as you try to back into a logical argument.
You guys still don’t get it?

This place is where SFP gets his dopamine hits.

He takes a contrarian stance on nearly every topic to entice an argument and attention.

There is a reason he has a post count as high as he does.

It is a drug for him.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21827 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16878 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

quote:
Says authorities are holding him based on some Terrorism Act legislation. Arent you a lawyer? Then you should know governments have been using terrorism legislation to overreach and overcharge people.


quote:


There is no reporting, other than his twitter account, that this was used.

It appears some public order laws were used
for police to deal with the protests (his were not the only ones going on at that time/place), but that's not applicable if he was arrested for contempt of court for an unrelated, non-protest, non-terror matter (showing the film).


12 pages later still taking L's
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 5:05 pm
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