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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:16 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299126 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:16 am to
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I get that but I just don’t understand why.


Personality cults are powerful over those with little individual ability to research and learn. They prefer to be told how to think.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157723 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:16 am to
I can provide link after link of people like you and the rest of the Krew whining about people criticizing this bill or anything really related to Trump.

I don’t think you are dishonest enough to say that’s untrue.

You cannot post link after link of me or anyone else really getting reactionary over criticism of anything day after day.


I do think you are dishonest enough to say that’s untrue. That’s just how you roll.

I gotta say, it’s funny to see 0MOT have to work hard to react to me without mentioning my username like no one can tell who he is talking about. That’s some James Bond shite right there.

More free entertainment.

This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:21 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:17 am to
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I don’t want a single bill to do everything I want. Omnibus bills are garbage receptacles for wasteful spending and pork.


All of the pork has been cut. You’re failing to understand you can’t cut what is left, unfortunately.

Again feel tree to identify what else can be cut legally.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:19 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37266 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:18 am to
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All of the pork has been cut.

There is pork and nonsense policy in this very bill. I’m not talking about the federal budget. I’m talking about this bill and all omnibus bills generally.

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You’re failing to understand you can’t cut what is left, unfortunately.

No, you failed to understand my post.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:19 am
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2511 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:19 am to
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I don’t necessarily oppose the BBB per se, it’s not perfect, matter of fact it’s kind of a polished turd, but it also seems to be an obstacle that has to get taken care of before anything else can get done spending cuts wise and I do love the tax cuts. I’m just all for whatever it takes to get us to the point where a new Farm Bill can start getting worked on.


Out of curiosity, what do you want in a new Farm Bill?

I'm sure removing the $5 billion or so in sugar subsidies is top of your list since the budget needs to be cut, and that would fall in line with RFK's MAHA program.

Curiously, that's not on anyone's list of things to cut. Again.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:19 am to
List all of it then. It’s not going to fix the problem you’re seeking though.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2511 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:20 am to
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1) The BBB is not getting 60 votes in the senate. They are attempting to pass it via reconciliation which requires a simple majority.
2) You truly are a slave for excusing another $4 trillion in debt. I have children. Myself along with my kids and their kids will be saddled with this bullshite. This is the same frick up that Trump did his first term with that omnibus bill.
3) You either want government waste ended or you want this bill passed. This bill is one giant pile of shite and will deservedly get axed.

You sound just like the fricking democrats. "We have a win because we passed a bill." It's not a win for the American people. It's a win for the politicians.


Don't you mean "politician"?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299126 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:21 am to
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All of the pork has been cut.




Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37266 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:22 am to
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List all of it then

All of the nonsense that’s in this bill? There’s plenty already listed in this thread I’m not repeating it.
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It’s not going to fix the problem you’re seeking though.

What is the problem you think I’m seeking?

I am seeking to end omnibus legislation. Cutting everything not spending or budget related out of this bill would do just that.

Oh and the biggest problem with this monstrosity is that it’s not going to pass, and so the good things that are in it will be down to the wire to get them done this session.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57853 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:22 am to
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Find the cuts because you can’t just say cut the military by 10% or cut social welfare by 10% and expect there not to be severe consequences or risk of hurting the economy.


Elon Musk proved this to be false.

Social Security
Military Spending
Medicare/Medicaid

Every bit of "mandatory spending" can be cut. How much fricking waste was found, and yet here is this bill still applying the same estimate. Maybe you don't understand what i'm saying.

For example. By 2022 standards, the budget per person for social security spending was $100. 2025 Elon musk finds at least 30-40% of that dollar amount to be attributed to waste. So when budgeting today, in this bill, congress is STILL using the $100/person budget. Ya get it? The waste has been identified already, yet Congress, like they fricking always do, is still using the same mulitplier to determine the budget. Now multiply this times every single line item in this fricking bill and you have a budget that is easily 50-60% fricking waste of MY MONEY. frick them for essentially screwing all of us, yet again. And here you chuckle-fricks are defending it with every breath simply because Trump wants it passed.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:22 am to
Show me 4 trillion in available cuts Mr economics. You can’t and you know it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299126 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:23 am to
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This place zero affect on DC yet folks act like criticism is un-American. Some folks need to toughen up and limit their intake of reactionary pills.


They need to stop looking at government for answers. They still havent learned that politicians will never have their best interest in mind.
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Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward, no use in looking 'round
Hold your head above the crowd and they won't bring you down

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Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16186 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:24 am to
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Out of curiosity, what do you want in a new Farm Bill? I'm sure removing the $5 billion or so in sugar subsidies is top of your list since the budget needs to be cut, and that would fall in line with RFK's MAHA program. Curiously, that's not on anyone's list of things to cut. Again.


It is actually, along with a lot of the welfare mailbox money that gets lumped into the Farm Bill, among other programs.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:24 am to
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BugAC


You have no clue what you’re talking about. You cannot cut mandatory spending. And you can’t just cut random 10% at a time.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157723 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:25 am to
It’s just spouting off.

There’s no pork


Umm, yes there is


Well, it’s not 4T


I never said it was. What I said was there is pork.

It’s all too funny and predictable.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28121 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:25 am to
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Elon Musk proved this to be false.

Social Security
Military Spending
Medicare/Medicaid

Every bit of "mandatory spending" can be cut.


Trumpets: Time to wreck shite, we need a reset, you all knew it would involve some pain, time to take some medicine. If it hurts you personally oh well.

Also Trumpets: Are you fricking crazy, a spending cut might negatively impact the economy!!!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299126 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:26 am to
Thats what happens when a person lacks ideology or personal intuition.

They become followers.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23997 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:26 am to
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and get 60 votes in the Senate?

Whatever it takes.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157723 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:27 am to
You see, I didn’t say that and if you prove I did I don’t mean that.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:28 am to
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You sound just like the fricking democrats. "We have a win because we passed a bill." It's not a win for the American people. It's a win for the politicians.
^-- THIS

This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 8:29 am
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