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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:07 am to I20goon
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:07 am to I20goon
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well said.
Except it's not accurate to what people are complaining about. He's not going to be able to not increase the debt right this instant, but he sure as hell could reduce the annual deficit with these tax cuts, which he is not and is in fact doing the opposite with the BBB stupidity.
You can actually have both, but Trump is not a real conservative. He literally thinks we can spend our way out of debt, which is the stupidest idea on the face of the Earth, seeing as how his leadership at this time is likely to hand over the country back to the left in 3.5 years.
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:08 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
So pass them first.
They don't have the votes to do that without first passing this bill. Like it or not, there are more "moderate" Republicans in Congress than there are "conservative" Republicans. The majority rules.
quote:
Cool. You can't quote it, becuase I never said it. Enjoy your story hour.
You brought up Obamacare in comparison to this bill. No one else. You being unable to make a reasonable inference is a you problem.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:08 am to momentoftruth87
quote:
you supporting trumps assassination attempts?
Look at this rube..
Now, everyone who calls the BBB shite, has supported the assassination attempts on Trump...
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:08 am to imjustafatkid
quote:I don't. Never said I did. But you were the one claiming it cut entitlements. It doesn't.
ETA: Do you REALLY think the Republicans have a mandate to cut social security. Like seriously come on man.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:09 am to BCreed1
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Truth. They are using word games.
quote:
1- I said this is the Biden budget that we are operating under.
2- That this bill is not Trump's budget. It cuts the spending under the current budget which is BIDEN's Budget.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:10 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Exactly. Instead of whining, crying, bitching and throwing tantrums because we are not getting everything we want, let's be happy for what we are getting in this bill. Then use Recission to cut spending one by one with only 51 votes in the senate.
It didn't.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:10 am to Geauxgurt
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:10 am to Geauxgurt
quote:
It's really simple:
It really is. This is not Trump's budget. We are operating under Biden's budget.
The question is do you want cuts or not. The ICA of 1974 dictates that Trump can not do away with Biden's budget. We are stuck with it until Oct 1st.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:10 am to RollTide4547
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Exactly. Instead of whining, crying, bitching and throwing tantrums because we are not getting everything we want,
We; getting over a trillion in new debt.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:12 am to imjustafatkid
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No, it includes the cuts it can include. Other bills will include other cuts.
He laughed at the first package sent down this week.
He's a moron. "Send one at a time!" then when they do that "LOL!! Look how little this is!".
He's a moron!
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It's no different than Obama passing the "stimulus" bill, then claiming that he ineirted the 2009 deficit because the 2009FY bugdget was passed in 2008.
Its a spending bill. Period.
It was BS then, and it's BS now.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:14 am to momentoftruth87
quote:Dude. You need another break.
Dafauq does this have to do with you supporting trumps assassination attempts?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:14 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
It's no different than Obama passing the "stimulus" bill, then claiming that he ineirted the 2009 deficit because the 2009FY bugdget was passed in 2008.
Bingo.
And all the simps blamed Bush solely.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:14 am to Taxing Authority
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Dude. You need another break.
Dude go frick yourself and simply ignore me.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:15 am to BCreed1
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Truth. They are using word games. Either it cuts entitlements or it doesn't. etc.
In their mindset right now, we could pass a bill amending the spending within the Biden budget to $100 dollars and Roger would scream "But it raises our debt damn it!".
Can't see the forest for the trees.
It's true. Every bill that makes the Trump tax cuts permanent will "increase the deficit" in the eyes of the CBO. That's just reality. These folks are advocating for ending the Trump tax cuts, and that's probably what we'll get.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Just like I said. Trump is the only reason you have accepted this foolishness.
No, Trump is the only reason you're opposed to it. My support has nothing to do with Trump.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:16 am to Taxing Authority
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I don't. Never said I did. But you were the one claiming it cut entitlements. It doesn't.
Liar. Even after being forced to admit that it cuts entitlements, you still double down.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I'd LOVE to cut all the deficit spending, but I'm not king and not going to get that. I am getting the border wall completed, permanent Trump tax cuts, funding for ICE to deport illegals, medicade reforms, no tax on tips and many other things that I want. Let's take the win on this thru reconciliation with 51 votes, then cut the unwanted spending with Recission.
We; getting over a trillion in new debt.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:16 am to imjustafatkid
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Well no, they actually can't do this. You're wrong. That's the problem here. The people in Congress who are saying we can do this are lying to you. They know they have to pass bills in this way.
Correct. The ICA of 1974 is the law
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:17 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
So pass them first.
quote:Exactly.
They don't have the votes to do that
quote:Well, given Trump wants to primary anyone that wants spending cut... you might understand peoples skepticism about having *more* votes for cuts in the future, and Trump's ability to deliver them.
Like it or not, there are more "moderate" Republicans in Congress than there are "conservative" Republicans.
quote:No. I borught up the similarities in rhetoric trying to pass an obviously flawed bill. You made up the rest.
You brought up Obamacare in comparison to this bill.
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