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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
It's really simple:
You can manage to pass the tax cuts on their own and a balanced budget on their own instead of stupidly putting it into one huge garbage bill that does only one and the opposite of the other.
You can then make significant cuts to the Military Welfare system that does nothing to make this country safer, and in fact makes it more dangerous for us, instead of giving them even more money.
You can make legitimate cuts to other programs as well that will actually work instead of fake ones that will do nothing but increase spending.
The point most people want is that you cut the budget. He is not doing that at all.
You can manage to pass the tax cuts on their own and a balanced budget on their own instead of stupidly putting it into one huge garbage bill that does only one and the opposite of the other.
You can then make significant cuts to the Military Welfare system that does nothing to make this country safer, and in fact makes it more dangerous for us, instead of giving them even more money.
You can make legitimate cuts to other programs as well that will actually work instead of fake ones that will do nothing but increase spending.
The point most people want is that you cut the budget. He is not doing that at all.
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to Taxing Authority
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Taxing Authority
Taxing douche wants taxes to go up. He’s still mad his job got cut when the IRS got shrunk.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
quote:well said.
The CBO includes making the Trump tax cuts permanent as part of its analysis. There is no bill that makes the Trump tax cuts permanent that the CBO will not claim adds to the debt. If your problem with this bill is that it "adds to the deficit" or "adds to the debt," you will never see a bill that makes the Trump tax cuts permanent that will satisfy you.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:59 am to imjustafatkid
quote:So pass them first.
Other bills will include other cuts.
quote:
Pleae quote where I said the BBB should be a bi-partisan bill.
quote:Cool. You can't quote it, becuase I never said it. Enjoy your story hour.
Keep pretending the problem with Obamacare wasn't that it was a purely partisan bill pushed through by Dems.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:59 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
Cool. How much will my neighbors SS be cut?
Hey I'm all for it, but you'll never even get 60 Republicans to vote for this. This would be like conceding the country to the Dems for the next 20 years.
ETA: Do you REALLY think the Republicans have a mandate to cut social security. Like seriously come on man.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
we all know you're anti-Trump
Here we go with the Trump protectionist racket.
If he wasnt such a Democrat at heart, I wouldnt dislike him
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
It really is very transparent once you actually address their "arguments." They have no legitimate complaints about the bill and appear to know actually nothing about what's in it.
Truth. They are using word games. Either it cuts entitlements or it doesn't. etc.
In their mindset right now, we could pass a bill amending the spending within the Biden budget to $100 dollars and Roger would scream "But it raises our debt damn it!".
Can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Here we go with the Trump protectionist racket.
If he wasnt such a Democrat at heart, I wouldnt dislike him
No one here is fooled by you. You've been the same anti-Trump guy all along. It's who you are. What he is doing with tariffs threatens your livelihood, and you put yourself above your country.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
The dems tried to kill him and you supported that. Disappeared like a panican after he got elected because you were embarrassed and butthurt.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:00 am to blueboy
quote:with an allied media if OBB does not pass all you will hear at the midterms is a two pronged declaration:
No, genius, explain to me how not passing this bill will lead to dems taking over.
This bill is the thing that's more of the same.
"Republicans raised your taxes AND cut medicaid"
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:01 am to BCreed1
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Bill does not = budget.
Its a spending bill. Period.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:01 am to imjustafatkid
quote:
same anti-Trump guy
Just like I said. Trump is the only reason you have accepted this foolishness.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:02 am to blueboy
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No, genius, explain to me how not passing this bill will lead to dems taking over.
Because taxes goes up. Because it keeps promises from being kept.
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This bill is the thing that's more of the same.
Name the last bill you saw that had these things in it. Asking for serious dialogue from you.
Here are 50 MAJOR wins from Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill that the media is ignoring
1. No taxes on tips — servers, bartenders, and bellhops just got a raise Promises made, promises kept
2.Made Trump tax cuts permanent — Biden wanted them to expire.
3.Child tax credit raised to $2,500
4.Overtime pay tax-free — work hard, actually keep more.
5.$1.6 trillion in spending cuts — the largest rollback of government bloat in U.S. history.
6.Work requirement for welfare — able-bodied? Then get off the couch.
7.Deporting 1 million illegal immigrants per year — no more catch and release.
8. Builds the wall—finishes it — 701 miles of serious border protection. Massive!
9.10,000 new ICE agents — law and order at the border. Huge!
10.Eliminates Medicaid for illegal aliens — American benefits for Americans.
11.“Trump Savings Accounts” for kids — build generational wealth from birth. Game changer.
12.Slashes IRS funding — no more 87,000 new agents breathing down your neck.
13.Green New Deal defunded — no more money for solar BS.
14.Energy production unleashed — back to drilling, fracking, etc.
15.Tariffs on Chinese-built ships — protect American shipbuilders.
16.Buy American, build American — required on all infrastructure projects.
17.Estate tax protections expanded — family farms and businesses stay in the family.
18.Repeals DEI mandates — merit matters again. DEI is dying.
19.Bans taxpayer-funded gender ideology in federal agencies.
20.Military pay raise + benefits boost
21.National missile defense (“Golden Dome”)
22.HSA accounts expanded — use them for direct primary care.
23.School choice tax credits — parents, not unions, control education. Historic!
24.Feds barred from mandating pronoun usage.
25.Medicaid block grants to states — local control, not DC strings. Saves hundreds of billions.
26.Revives apprenticeship programs — college not required to succeed. The cartel hates this.
27.1% of exports must ship under U.S. flag
28.Mandates voter ID for federal elections.
29.Ends ESG mandates in retirement accounts
30.Cracks down on Big Pharma middlemen
31.Bans drag shows for kids at federally funded venues.
32.Fires the climate cult from federal boards
33.Veterans get priority housing access
34. Tax credit for buying American-made vehicles
35.Stops Chinese ownership of U.S. farmland — our soil is finally protected!.
36.Bans CRT from federal training programs.
37.Ends taxpayer-funded abortions abroad. And defunds planned parenthood!
38.Guts federal diversity czars — cuts the bloated bureaucracy.
39.Revives the Keystone XL pipeline
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40. Eliminates federal COVID emergency powers
41.Enacts Social Security tax cuts for seniors.
42.Defends religious liberty in the workplace
43. Restores due process on college campuses.
44. Massively expands trade school funding
45. Outlaws federal funding for gender transitions for minors.
46. Creates nationwide “patriot curriculum” grant fund
47.Halts funding to the UN’s woke agenda arms.
48. Tax breaks for adoption and large families.
49. Increases penalties for fentanyl trafficking — life in prison for cartels.
50. Restores cash bail in federal jurisdictions — no more revolving-door criminals.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:02 am to momentoftruth87
quote:
The dems tried to kill him
They also tried to kill President Ford, twice in one month.
I bet you dont even know about that.
We never hear about Ford.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:04 am to imjustafatkid
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quote:
When was the last time a bill cut 1.6 trillion from medicaid?
If this bill fails, when will be the next time?
Trump did this last time and they simply want to ignore it. In fact, more people left welfare.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:04 am to BCreed1
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You see. That's part of the problem. They have no reading comprehension.
1- I said this is the Biden budget that we are operating under.
2- That this bill is not Trump's budget. It cuts the spending under the current budget which is BIDEN's Budget.
He's just to ate up with OMB to read.
Yeah they're going off on ridiculous tangents at this point. Nothing of substance.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:05 am to BCreed1
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You see. That's part of the problem. They have no reading comprehension.
quote:
Correct. This is not Trump's budget
What's funny is... how is opposition to BBB "anti-trump" if it's not his bill?
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:06 am to Geauxgurt
quote:
It's really simple:
You can manage to pass the tax cuts on their own and a balanced budget on their own instead of stupidly putting it into one huge garbage bill that does only one and the opposite of the other.
You can then make significant cuts to the Military Welfare system that does nothing to make this country safer, and in fact makes it more dangerous for us, instead of giving them even more money.
You can make legitimate cuts to other programs as well that will actually work instead of fake ones that will do nothing but increase spending.
Well no, they actually can't do this. You're wrong. That's the problem here. The people in Congress who are saying we can do this are lying to you. They know they have to pass bills in this way.
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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They also tried to kill President Ford, twice in one month. I bet you dont even know about that. We never hear about Ford.
Dafauq does this have to do with you supporting trumps assassination attempts? I wasn’t even alive like you were boomer and that’s not the subject at hand. Derp
Posted on 6/5/25 at 10:07 am to momentoftruth87
quote:Link?
Taxing douche wants taxes to go up.
quote:
He’s still mad his job got cut when the IRS got shrunk.
Link? And my career has nothing to do with taxes, other than paying them. You suck at this. 
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