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re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill

Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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I don't think this bill sucks, so no that is not my argument. Not even close.
So you think it includes enough cuts? Ok. Who did you vote for?
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Of course you did.
Pleae quote where I said the BBB should be a bi-partisan bill.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65345 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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Not sure what you enjoyed about the last 4 years of Dem rule
No, genius, explain to me how not passing this bill will lead to dems taking over.

This bill is the thing that's more of the same.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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LOL. They are just anti trump.


No. I'm not a Trump cultist. He's bankrupting the country

You had 4 years to already figure this out.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:52 am to
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When was the last time a bill cut 1.6 trillion from medicaid?


If this bill fails, when will be the next time?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:52 am to
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It adds trillions to the debt.

There's your reason.


Only if you think making the Trump tax cuts permanent will add to the debt.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10343 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:53 am to
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You say this knowing several suggestions were already mentioned. Are you ignorant or stupid? 1) No extension of the debt ceiling. 2) No added $2.6 trillion in spending 3) break it up into smaller, spending only bills. 4) Cut fricking government waste. Elon was trying to do this, then was stabbed in the back with this bill. 5) Washington is still using the Biden cost estimates for things. Elon has proven that there is an absurd amount of waste in every bill passed. Yet these incompetent tards and their supporters (YOU) still think you need $2.6 trillion to cut spending. It makes zero logical sense. 6) "Well we have to increase the debt ceiling to pay off the interest". This is the mind of an addict who doesn't understand how money works. If i run up my credit card bills, and max out; a smart person wouldn't keep requesting my credit limit to increase. A smart bank wouldn't accept it, especially if that person has a history of not being able to pay off that debt. What a responsible adult does, is goes through all of their expenditures, and starts cutting everywhere they can to be able to manage the payments. This pile of shite bill is weak leadership by Johnson (no big surprise) and Trump being desperate because he said he was going to pass the bill and doesn't want his ego tarnished if it doesn't get passed. Admitting this bill is a failure doesn't mean you don't love trump. IT's ok to oppose it. But, so many of the usuals are so in love with a politician that you will accept ANYTHING he gives you, even if it fricks you and your family over in the end. That's called idol worship. This bill is NOT Americans first.




Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:53 am to
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The answer is (statically) none. Illegal benefit cuts can easily be passed in a separate bill, and every conservative in Congress would join in.
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This is a weird way to admit that this bill cuts benefits.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:53 am to
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Only if you think making the Trump tax cuts permanent will add to the debt.




I dont know what influencers is misleading you, but you need better source material
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2121 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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Or maybe we could work on some bills with acutal cuts?


If this bill, which has some cuts, can't be passed why would a more spartan bill that has more cuts pass?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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So you think it includes enough cuts? Ok. Who did you vote for?


No, it includes the cuts it can include. Other bills will include other cuts.

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Pleae quote where I said the BBB should be a bi-partisan bill.


Keep pretending the problem with Obamacare wasn't that it was a purely partisan bill pushed through by Dems.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:55 am to
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The worst part about this thread are the morons who want the whole deficit gone with the bill and they live with their heads up their asses.


They are pretenders. They simply can't stand Trump.


Most of them were in a thread on Entitlements during the primary. They were livid because Trump stated that he would not touch SS.

In that thread, they stated he is unwilling to cut any entitlements. I pointed out Trump's last budget sent to congress... and they all did what they are doing now.

This cuts entitlements. This is what they "CLAIMED" to be for. Now that Trump is doing it. They are pissed because they were wrong.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:55 am to
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No, genius, explain to me how not passing this bill will lead to dems taking over.

This bill is the thing that's more of the same.


OK, don't take my word for it. I'll be correct.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:55 am to
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I'll be correct.


Youre a Dem larping as a Republican.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:55 am to
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No. I'm not a Trump cultist. He's bankrupting the country

You had 4 years to already figure this out.


Yes, we all know you're anti-Trump. You've made this very clear.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:56 am to
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I dont know what influencers is misleading you, but you need better source material


The CBO includes making the Trump tax cuts permanent as part of its analysis. There is no bill that makes the Trump tax cuts permanent that the CBO will not claim adds to the debt. If your problem with this bill is that it "adds to the deficit" or "adds to the debt," you will never see a bill that makes the Trump tax cuts permanent that will satisfy you.
This post was edited on 6/5/25 at 9:57 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:56 am to
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They are pretenders. They simply can't stand Trump.
but it's totally not a cult.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:57 am to
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Youre a Dem larping as a Republican.


Yeah the guy who calls everyone a cultist who he disagrees with doesn’t see he has more in common with the left than maga. We aren’t Dems and we aren’t whatever you are.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:57 am to
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This is a weird way to admit that this bill cuts benefits.
Cool. How much will my neighbors SS be cut?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to
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At no point have I ever referred to the Big Beautiful Bill as "Biden's budget."


You see. That's part of the problem. They have no reading comprehension.


1- I said this is the Biden budget that we are operating under.

2- That this bill is not Trump's budget. It cuts the spending under the current budget which is BIDEN's Budget.

He's just to ate up with OMB to read.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65777 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:58 am to
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Youre a Dem larping as a Republican.


Only one of us is arguing for positions that will put Dems back in power, and it isn't me.
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