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Time to switch from government to the free market

Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted by TigerWhatIR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2013
911 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:30 pm
The free market can provide any service government does, except cheaper, with more efficiency, quality, innovation, and accountability, all funded voluntarily instead of via theft, and with no forced government monopolies anymore.

It’d be a lot harder for the “deep state”, criminals, globalists, etc., to do their thing when they don’t have the monopoly force of government in their pocket.

Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18212 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:35 pm to
We can’t even get a small tax break without people dying in the streets.

Most people in this country fully expect and want the government to save them from anything that may happen. frickin meat in their freezer spoils during a power outage? Who’s going to pay for this? Free govt meat. We’ll never come anywhere close to what your op says. Enjoy the ride into socialism.

The only thing that could have saved this country from inevitable collapse was congressional term limits at least 50 years ago.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 10:39 pm
Posted by TigerWhatIR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2013
911 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

We’ll never come anywhere close to what your op says. Enjoy the ride into socialism.


We can if we explain to the socialists how much better off they will be in the free market.

1. No more conservatives ruling over them or forcing their beliefs on them.
2. No more government rigging the laws and subsidies to benefit certain corporations or industries.
3. No more being the prison capital of the world with millions in jail over medicinal plants or unhealthy substances.
4. No more being forced to pay for unjust wars. You just pay for whichever competing security firm you feel does the best job.
5. No more government screwing up the healthcare and insurance industries with their rigged laws.
6. The needy will be better taken care by charities when we lose the false expectation of it being the duty of corrupt, thieving politicians to take care of the poor. And we’ll have more money available to donate.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:53 pm to
Premise is completely wrong.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:56 pm to
Correct.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:57 pm to
quote:

Premise is completely wrong.


How so?

Most people in this country are so brainwashed, they believe "society" and "government" are the same things.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:58 pm to
This thread is is a good example of why libertarians and anarchists are never taken seriously.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2849 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

3. No more being the prison capital of the world with millions in jail over medicinal plants or unhealthy substances.
4. No more being forced to pay for unjust wars. You just pay for whichever competing security firm you feel does the best job.


......are you serious?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:02 pm to
It's a PROBLEM that libertarians aren't taken seriously.

Why so much faith in government to "run things", Sentrius?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:12 pm to
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3. No more being the prison capital of the world with millions in jail over medicinal plants or unhealthy substances.

Holy shite you're a moron. A big reason why that's currently the case is because of the private prison industry.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

It's a PROBLEM that libertarians aren't taken seriously.

Why so much faith in government to "run things", Sentrius?

Some things are better off left to the public and some things are better off left to the private sector.

I think we probably need to move in the direction of more things being fulfilled by the private sector but to suggest that all of it can be done is silly.
Posted by QboveTopSecret
America
Member since Feb 2018
3238 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:17 pm to


why do we have a income Tax?
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:18 pm to
If we actually had a president who was willing to audit both the Federal Reserve and the IRS, people would be in so much of an uproar that there would need to be a revolution. So much of taxpayer money is fraudulently wasted and misappropriated.
Posted by TigerWhatIR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2013
911 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:20 pm to
Private prisons are not the problem. It’s the government creating unjust laws that create criminals out of millions of innocent nonviolent people that fill the prisons. It’s the government that subsidizes the private prisons and incentivizes them to lobby for more unjust laws.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:23 pm to
[quote]I think we probably need to move in the direction of more things being fulfilled by the private sector but to suggest that all of it can be done is silly.[quote]

I see what you're saying here, but when has this actually happened? It's not going to happen either, because people on the "Right" constantly try to ridicule and downplay libertarian thought.

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

why do we have a income Tax?


More government control.
Posted by TigerWhatIR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2013
911 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:31 pm to












Government is only authorized by “the consent of the governed”.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

How so?


So you know that there are free market failures?

Have you considered monopolies? Missing markets?
Posted by TigerWhatIR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2013
911 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

why do we have a income Tax?


The Federal Reserve (private banks) was given monopoly power by government to create money out of thin air, loan it to us, and charge us interest on it. We pay income tax because government forces us to. The money goes to pay off interest to those private bankers as pure profit to them on top of the money they create out of thin air that we must pay back.

Here’s a “must watch” documentary that explains the history of central banking and what a fraud it is. The federal reserve is America’s 3rd time having a central bank. The first two were abolished for being fraudulent. The 3rd/current stuck because it was passed off as a way to protect us from banks and because 99% of people don’t understand how it works.

“The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gaines Control of America”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mB-pdPaQNKA
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9097 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

So you know that there are free market failures?


Yep.

Do you realize EVERYONE has to suffer when government fails?

quote:

Have you considered monopolies?


Government is the worst monopoly. Are you happy w/ the job government is doing at "educating" society?

quote:

Missing markets?


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