re: Time to switch from government to the free market

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Missing markets?

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As long as there is a public demand for something, people will be willing to provide it.

Even things that are illegal such as drugs get provided in the black market because there is demand for them.

Even things like space travel are being dominated by the private sector, and NASA is just a big inefficient waste.

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Private prisons are not the problem. It’s the government creating unjust laws that create criminals out of millions of innocent nonviolent people that fill the prisons.

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Who do you think is lining the pockets of politicians to keep all of these things criminal?

I'll give you a hint: PRIVATE INDUSTRIES

Preach!

People constantly try to downplay and ridicule libertarian thought because they don’t understand what libertarian thought actually is. And that is directly attributable to a messaging failure from libertarians just like the one seen in the OP.


The primary tenant of libertarianism is that government should only be involved in markets when absolutely necessary. But pseudo-intellectuals like this OP instead push misapplications of Econ 101 models to insist there be a total hands off approach; that government should never be involved. He’s conflating libertarianism with a anarco-capitalism, and when non-libertarian readers see that, they assume that is the actual goal of all libertarians. It’s not. And if libertarians are going to start winning people over, they’ll have to find a way to distance themselves from fools like this OP

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funnystuff

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The fundamental principle of libertarian thought is:

Do not initiate nonconsensual force against another human being, as this would be the definition of “aggression”.

Tell me how a government would be designed that doesn’t steal from us or restrict our right to provide competing services.

There are lots of pseudo-libertarians or libertarian-leaning people in various stages of progressing through their process of learning about and embracing liberty. It takes time to think everything through to its logical conclusion, and once you do, you reach Voluntaryism.

How is proper oversight and accountability addressed in a free market “corporate” system (I fully understand that it can be destroyed and abused in our current state of corruption)?

I’m assuming the answer is that people will address it by voting elsewhere with their money, but I don’t think it’s that simple.

Also, how are judges “elected” to be given the ability to take away someone‘a freedom in someone else’s (or their own) private prison? Perhaps I’m missing some components of what your free market entails.

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I’m assuming the answer is that people will address it by voting elsewhere with their money, but I don’t think it’s that simple.

Also, how are judges “elected” to be given the ability to take away someone‘a freedom in someone else’s (or their own) private prison?

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Bad companies could face the following consequences (at least):
1. Ostracism from other businesses refusing to supply/support them.
2. Ostracism from their customers switching to a competitor.
3. Action taken by actual victims who are seeking justice.

How to obtain justice?

First, it is anticipated in a free market that people would obtain additional/broader insurance policies. In addition to coverage for fire, theft, car wrecks, illness, natural disasters, people would also get coverage for other crimes such as fraud, assault, murder, etc.

So when someone wrongs you, you get paid out, but also your insurance company goes after the assailant to recover damages. The assailant likely will have their own insurance provider too. These insurance people will effectively serve as the plaintiff’s and defendant’s lawyers, and they will agree upon a reputable third party arbitration firm to serve as their judge. If one side fails to fairly cooperate, they will face the consequences of free market forces for choosing to be unjust.

As for violent criminals who are a threat to society, they’d still be imprisoned too, except our government’s current incentives to have false arrests, false convictions, high prison populations would no longer be there because its cost prohibitive.

The fact is, that’s just a theory of how it could work, but the thing about innovation is we don’t know which better solutions people will continually be coming up with in a future free market. We only know that government is standing in the way of them.

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Road Map to slavery.

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That’s a false assumption that there would be no societal norms/laws, no consequences, no justice in the free market. The majority of society would not tolerate anyone owning slaves and would donate their money to victim advocacy groups to send people to free those slaves. But your solution is to give the power of monopoly government force to that 1% who support slavery?

We are virtual slaves to government right NOW. If slavery includes stealing 100% of someone else’s labor, what percent do you have to steal before it’s not slavery anymore?

Think beyond your government indoctrination, think logically, and see how absurd it is to claim that freedom is the roadmap to slavery.

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The free market can provide any service government does, except cheaper, with more efficiency, quality, innovation, and accountability, all funded voluntarily instead of via theft, and with no forced government monopolies anymore. 

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Tell me how this can possibly work, given the following scenarios:

1) Police Protection - Let's say I live on a street where half the families don't want to pay a private entity for police protection. I call the company that I've contracted with because I think I see a prowler in the area. When the "police" arrive and discover that the prowler has broken into the home of a family which has not contracted with them for protection, what do they do? If they arrest the guy anyway, what's the point of me paying for protection when my freeloading neighbors get the same service?

2) Roads & Bridges - Same basic scenario. Half the people in my neighborhood pay an entity for needed infrastructure, and half don't. Are the 50% who didn't pay anything restricted from driving on those roads or crossing those bridges?

3) National Defense - Without even providing a scenario, please tell me how this would work given your NO GOVERNMENT vision.

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