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re: Thousands go without water as Detroit cuts service
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:23 am to volmaverick
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:23 am to volmaverick
Nicole Hill's problem is that she is receiving $200 / month bills which is out of whack. If she called the water utility 5 years ago to check the meter and they didn't, she may have a case. Her bill is $5700 after paying $2000+ in the last year.
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:26 am to volmaverick
quote:It probably has a ton more to do with a water system that is relatively old in a location with more extreme weather and a ton of construction that could upset water lines. But don't let that stop the hate.
But there are reasons for it. Heavy unionization Lib run City, mismanagement, and thousands of unpaid bills from free loaders make up the bulk of that cost.
I would be curious how it ranks against regional private companies. I suspect it is in line.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to mmcgrath
If I remember from the thread I started a while back on this same issue, it has more to do with the water company being forced to increase prices after people quit paying their bills.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to volmaverick
quote:
But cutting off water to people already living in poverty came under criticism last week from the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, whose experts said that Detroit was violating international standards by cutting off access to water. "When there is genuine inability to pay, human rights simply forbids disconnections," Catarina de Albuquerque, the office's expert on the human right to water and sanitation, said in the communique.
This should be examined...thoroughly.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:29 am to volmaverick
Fatass can get her nails done and tattoos, but can't pay her water bill? Fork her!
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:29 am to upgrayedd
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"When there is genuine inability to pay,
She can pay for hair and nails and junk food
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:29 am to volmaverick
She shouldn't be responsible. The owner of the plantation she grew up on didn't believe in educating his workers. She has no skills. She shouldn't have to pay. She deserves reparations. It's not her fault.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Why does Nicole Hill use so much water in November? That graph be sky high.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:37 am to fontell
Why? Did you not see the pic?
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:40 am to themunch
Nicole Hill IS the very face of Detroit. Black, obese, can’t pay her bills yet has enough money to get her hair streaked and her chest tattooed. She can’t pay her water bill but that clearly hasn’t made her miss any Big Macs.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:44 am to volmaverick
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Nicole Hill IS the very face of Detroit. Black, obese, can’t pay her bills yet has enough money to get her hair streaked and her chest tattooed. She can’t pay her water bill but that clearly hasn’t made her miss any Big Macs.
Forgot to add being a college student.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:45 am to volmaverick
Cut back on food
Pay water bill
Lose weight
Win win
Pay water bill
Lose weight
Win win
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:49 am to fontell
quote:
Why does Nicole Hill use so much water in November? That graph be sky high.
Ask sea world
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:51 am to Scruffy
quote:Not really. After the water is shut off, customers come in and pay a restore charge plus their outstanding bill... plus a penalty. It is worked into the budget. Water utilities like Detroit's usually can recover a lot more costs by increasing the efficiency of their system. Water utilities can lose between 10-30% of their treated water in various ways.
If I remember from the thread I started a while back on this same issue, it has more to do with the water company being forced to increase prices after people quit paying their bills.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:52 am to BOSCEAUX
I posted at least one thread on this a week or two back.
The water company has millions of dollars in unpaid bills IIRC and has noticed a serious uptick in the number of bills paid off in full within a millisecond of the water being shut off.
In other words, it's generally not a case of people being *unable* to pay bills, it's a case of people being *unwilling* to pay bills unless the water is turned off.
As far as this particular orca goes, she's not a good poster child for "OMG, evul Detroit Water~!" when she's clearly blowing a lot on luxuries instead of necessities.
Show me the little old lady on a fixed income who can't pay the bills and I might show some sympathy. Shamu, OTOH? Not so much.
The water company has millions of dollars in unpaid bills IIRC and has noticed a serious uptick in the number of bills paid off in full within a millisecond of the water being shut off.
In other words, it's generally not a case of people being *unable* to pay bills, it's a case of people being *unwilling* to pay bills unless the water is turned off.
As far as this particular orca goes, she's not a good poster child for "OMG, evul Detroit Water~!" when she's clearly blowing a lot on luxuries instead of necessities.
Show me the little old lady on a fixed income who can't pay the bills and I might show some sympathy. Shamu, OTOH? Not so much.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:52 am to mmcgrath
quote:You are assuming that the 50% of Detroit that hasn't paid their water bills will do that.
After the water is shut off, customers come in and pay a restore charge plus their outstanding bill... plus a penalty.
These accounts were running for a long time before they were shut off.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:53 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Water utilities like Detroit's usually can recover a lot more costs by increasing the efficiency of their system. Water utilities can lose between 10-30% of their treated water in various ways.
It's hard to invest in improved infrastructure if people aren't paying their damn bills.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:02 pm to teke184
quote:
It's hard to invest in improved infrastructure if people aren't paying their damn bills
Bingo. We're not dealing with people who WANT to pay their water bills, but can't because the inefficiency of the water system makes the cost prohibitively high. The vast majority of these people CHOOSE to not pay their bill in order to spend that money on other things. It would not matter if it was $200 per month, or $40 per month. Go sit in the public utility office of any large US city and you will see numerous people on a daily basis roll in with relatively nice vehicles, clothes, accessories, etc. who's water just got shut off after being delinquent on the bill for several months.
If they don't want to pay their water bills, fine. Detroit sits next to a giant fricking lake. Grab a bucket!
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:04 pm to Alt26
quote:
If they don't want to pay their water bills, fine. Detroit sits next to a giant fricking lake. Grab a bucket!
The lake in question...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:07 pm to Alt26
quote:
Detroit sits next to a giant fricking lake. Grab a bucket!
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