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re: those who chose to let JBE win because vitter had an afair and wasnt an "honorable" man

Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30031 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:31 pm to
i agree with all of you who say vitter was a terrible candidate and we should have had a better choice.

but...... to not vote for vitter knowing full well JBE was going to win as a result is like saying i didnt like trump so i rather let hillary win and destroy the country because im short sighted and cant see the forest for the trees.

the worst morally bankrupt republican candidate in the world is still a better choice then letting satan in your house to burn it down. this is how i felt voting for romney and then oh my frickin god john mcccain, but i still went vote "trying" to keep obama out of the office because that was more important then how much i disliked the only republican choice i had to voter for
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34162 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:34 pm to
I didn’t vote for JBE and have never voted Democrat in my life. That being said, why vote for ANYONE that has an R in front of his name at the state level? Hell, Schroeder just was elected treasurer and he helped to put us in a two billion dollar hole. No thanks on voting Republican. Hell, even Mark Wright went from being a sound business guy to religious “family values “ Republican over night ( and yes, I voted for him...with a ton of appreciation). JBE is s disingenuous tool, but at least he isn’t fooling anybody. Bobby boy and Diaper Dave are wolves in sheeps clothing. Landry is even less trustworthy in my book. Until things change, I’ll sit this one out before I vote for any of these clowns. You guys are aguing over who has the better tasting shite sandwich. frick that.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:35 pm to
We will survive JBE. And it will probably make us better.

Look I’m a hardcore conservative but you can’t pretend republican leaders have ever actually helped the state because it’s always been louisiana good ole boy corruption.

Maybe JBE will get us a good candidate.

Unfortunately it looks like either Jeff Landry or John Kennedy.

I mean who the frick do I pick out of that bag of dicks?
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:39 pm to
JBE is not a good governor. It took him 15 months to rebuild a little bridge on a key road near me after the flood. Stupid.

Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:40 pm to
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the worst morally bankrupt republican candidate in the world is still a better choice then letting satan in your house to burn it down. this is how i felt voting for romney and then oh my frickin god john mcccain, but i still went vote "trying" to keep obama out of the office because that was more important then how much i disliked the only republican choice i had to voter for


National and state elections are two different animals. A state like Louisiana is very conservative. It's much more so than the nation. In Louisiana, we elect a state legislature to check our powerful governor. If the Republican legislature can't hold JBE in check for 4 years, then shame on them. The reason why they can't comes back to the fact that too many of them are frauds. You as a voter, and probably a good contributing citizen, deserve better.

Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:41 pm to
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Could the Republicans not recruit anyone better than those two clowns?


Aside from those two, the state bench was pretty bare of talent and there wasn't a candidate that could credibly challenge Vitter's money and name recognition.

Strain is not interested and is happy where he is, Scalise has too much power in DC to give up, Garrett Graves was too green and young, Kennedy was only state treasurer at the time.

It was Dardenne, Vitter and Angelle and that's it.

Jindal pushed Angelle as hard as he could behind the scenes because he fricking hated Vitter after he called him out on how shitty his second term as Governor was going. They used to be on good terms.

In fact, I fully believe that Jindal was behind and encouraged Angelle's strategy of relentless character assassination and he timed his exit from the Presidential race in the same week as the runoff to frick over Vitter good.

Jay Dardenne? Who knows but he couldn't get much traction in part becuase he supports giving millions of our dollars away to hollywood despite there bing no significant ROI and economic development and he's continually defended that welfare scam.

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Remember this, the national Republican party offered up two worthless candidates in Mccain and Romney in 08 and 12. I was forced to vote for these two clowns because I knew what Obama had in mind for this country.


I didn't vote for McCain I saw him as nothing more than a third term of Bush on steroids and a disaster waiting to happen in the same reasons that Obama was going to be a disaster too.

Romney? Why should I vote for they guy who pushed a healthcare model that democrats chose to model ObamaCare after?

But see here's the thing, I didn't vote for them because I had stark policy differences with them, not idiotic and misguided rage over fee fees pissing me off like "conservatives" who voted for JBE did.

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Most of the Republicans run as conservatives, but govern as democrats...which sucks because Vitter did not fall into that category.


And that's why I had no problem voting for Vitter because he had an official and professional record that was reliable and consistent and he did not commit a crime or abuse tax dollars.

Shame others couldn't see it that way to their own detriment.

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I support Trump because he never tried to sell me that he was a conservative.



Oddly enough, Trump has turned out to be a more conservative POTUS than either Bush and is in the process of challenging Reagan.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
So DOTD wouldn’t do it and the governor comes and rebuilds it himself....and you get mad at him?

Sheesh man.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
Steve Scalise if he decided to run would beat JBE 20-30 pts.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15420 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:43 pm to
I voted for JBE in the Runoff.

Although a newbie poster to TD, I've read you guys for years. One theme that continually pops up is the assumption that people didn't vote for Vitter because of this whole hooker thing.

I don't give a shite that Vitter hired prostitutes. He can frick whoever he wants. Sex is sex. Everybody has sex. WHO CARES???????????

I find it interesting that the Poli Board's take is that Vitter lost because a bunch of Louisiana Laissez Les Bon Temps Rouller people that get drunk at 7:30 in the morning had a problem with Vitter's sexual morality. People in Louisiana especially the southern part of Louisiana don't give a crap about Vitter's sex life.

I didn't vote for Vitter in his first term as Senator (before we knew he had a brothel on speedial) precisely because his moralistic, bible beating nonsense was a total turnoff. His "qualifications" that he advertised were "I love Jesus" and here are some pictures of my premature baby and I'm standing by an incubator, so look at what a loving family man I am. I smelled bullshite.

If Vitter's conservative bona fides are so legit, why didn't he spend his time in the gubernatorial election talking about how Dardenne/Angelle were not conservative enough (bc let's face it - Dardenne is not a conservative), or how JBE is a Marxist or something. He should have ignored all the mudslinging because he is actually very smart. However, all he wanted to talk about was how dishonest/deviant everybody else was. He's LEARNED NOTHING from the prostitute thing. Nobody CARES about the prostitutes. People hate hypocrisy. Vitter should have just owned the hooker thing and talked about the issues. People would have believed him. He maybe would have won.

Vitter's support came from DC (which also makes me skeptical). This is because he has managed to alienate local Republicans, and some fairly legit ones.

JBE just got lucky that Vitter made the runoff (by 1 percent I may add). Vitter has only himself to blame that we have a D in the Gov Mansion. Plus, JBE was a one term proposition.

TLDR: IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE PROSTITUTES.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:45 pm to
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So DOTD wouldn’t do it and the governor comes and rebuilds it himself....and you get mad at him?


How do you come up with the stupid crap you post?

You understand DOTD is run by the Governor right?
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:45 pm to
Preach brother
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112664 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:46 pm to
Jeff Landry would be an absolute disaster as governor, why keep supporting the shite sandwhich that this state GOP dishes out?
Posted by Thunder
Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
2421 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:47 pm to
Moon keeps shouting out one term governor...... he dont know the fickle arse christian right like I do......
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:49 pm to
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I voted for JBE over Vitter and would do it again in a nanosecond.


Keep telling us how you're a conservative dude.

It's a riot act.

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Vitter was already extorting other elected officials for public support and making serious threats about how he would destroy their departments or cash flow to their area.


Good.

This state is corrupt as frick and the legislature needs a legit conservative to put them in their place and force them to deliver on what they promised their voters instead of just being fashionably late democrats.

Hell, the Sheriff's association and trial lawyers opposing him was all the signal I needed to vote for him. Those two groups are the scourge of this state.

He had the right enemies in the right place.

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JBE was the first and hopefully only liberal Democrat I will ever vote for.


I will never live with that stain on my record. Hilarious how you're so willing to live with that while calling yourself a conservative.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42609 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:49 pm to
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The GOP can beat JBE if they just simply get out their base and make sure JBE can't get enough of those same republicans that elected him and they make sure they don't have opportunist ankle biters doing everything they can to destroy the front runner to a level where it prevents conservative unity against JBE in the runoff.


Why don't they just line up a half dozen women to claim JBE assaulted him 40 years ago - just 3 weeks before the election so his name cannot be replaced on the ballot.

Seems like that is the DEMs way of conducting political theft.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15420 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:49 pm to
Please oh please. But isn't the money on him being Speaker of the House if we can ever get rid of Paul Ryan?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 2:49 pm to
It will be a surprise to many in Tangipahoa Parish that JBE's brother the sheriff escapes a federal indictment.

The raid the FBI made on his office was so large I suspect Loretta Lynch herself had to approve it.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34682 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Landry is an idiot so he has a shot.


By that logic, you could win easily.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 3:03 pm to
I know exactly how it works.

You think JBE manages down to the level of a shitty bridge in your neighborhood?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 3:05 pm to
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People in Louisiana especially the southern part of Louisiana don't give a crap about Vitter's sex life.


Dardenne and Angelle did.

Don't like that perception?

Maybe they shouldn't have ran on that then.

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why didn't he spend his time in the gubernatorial election talking about how Dardenne/Angelle were not conservative enough (bc let's face it - Dardenne is not a conservative)


He did do just that.

In fact, that's why Dardenne and Angelle went scorched earth on the character assassination in response because they were hopelessly out classed in that argument of official resume and voting records.

I've repeatedly said this.

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or how JBE is a Marxist or something.


That's actually something I've given Vitter shite for.

He deserved to lose this election becuase he was overconfident, lazy and run a very uninspired campaign that took a lot of things for granted.

He could've survived the onslaught from Dardenne and Angelle if he made sure JBE didn't sneak into the runoff untouched and quiet like a church mouse.

Vitter only has himself to blame for that.

quote:

Vitter has only himself to blame that we have a D in the Gov Mansion.


Sure, Vitter provided the environment and conditions for that to happen but the ultimate responsibly for the result of any election belongs to the voters only. Simple as that.

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Plus, JBE was a one term proposition.


Why take that chance?

It doesn't take much to get 51% in this state.

He's at like 42-44% in a generic matchup and only needs like 6-8% more and that's very doable to get and that includes retaining just enough but not all of the same republicans that elected him.

JBE won with 54% in the runoff and can lose 3 points from that and still win.
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