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re: This sure sounds like a terrorist organization to me
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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.often guilty, terrible criminals. That's the nature of our system.
So you agree you are defacto siding with the criminals.
I was replying to "We ... are ... siding ... with ... the ... rule ... of ... law, not with the criminals.”
So you 2 need to stop getting upset when people say you are siding with the criminals. Because you are in fact siding with the criminals.
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:55 pm to Azkiger
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Does what is described sound like a terrorist org to you?
You’re talking to someone that thinks Jan 6 was worse than 9-11. He is not a rational human
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Educating.
Sure.
Sure.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Those aren't our citizens.
Defending constitutional rights of citizens almost always "defacto sides with criminals"
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 pm to Azkiger
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Notice how Displaced, Boosie, Sammy, Aggie, SFP all ignored the OPs post about TdA being a terrorist org.
quote:Well, that little story actually DISPROVES your claim. It shows that they are a criminal gang which was HIRED to kill someone.
Notice how Displaced, Boosie, Sammy, Aggie, SFP all ignored the OPs post about TdA being a terrorist org.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the admin feels this way, they should litigate this in court with evidence to show compliance with the statutory authority granted to the executive.
Did Biden litigate the de-listing of the Houthis as a terrorist org in a court of law?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 pm to AggieHank86
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That being said, is TdA a "terrorist organization
The United States of America has designated Tren de Aragua a terrorist organization for over a month.
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WASHINGTON, Feb 19 (Reuters) - The United States on Wednesday designated Tren de Aragua, the Sinaloa Cartel and other drug cartels as global terrorist organizations, according to a Federal Register notice, a move that comes as President Donald Trump steps up immigration enforcement against alleged gang members in the U.S. The notice issued by Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the groups pose a risk to U.S. national security, foreign policy and economic interests.
The OAS has designated them as such for years, and doesn’t recognize Maduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela.
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The OAS has expressed concerns about the situation in Venezuela, particularly regarding the legitimacy of elections and the human rights situation. In 2019, the OAS recognized Juan Guaidó, the President of the National Assembly, as the interim president of Venezuela, following the Venezuelan presidential crisis.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:58 pm to AggieHank86
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Well, that little story actually DISPROVES your claim. It shows that they are a criminal gang which was HIRED to kill someone.
"They're not terrorists, they just work for terrorists". They're just self contractors, really.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:58 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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xenophobia
X-phobia is what brought down Europe, and it will bring us down too as long as Americans are afraid of being called a name.
Islamophobia is understanding that Islam is our mortal enemy.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:58 pm to Azkiger
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Does what is described sound like a terrorist org to you?
Not particularly. Terrorism is almost universally political in nature.
They sound like typical criminals. They're as much "terrorists" as the Bloods, crips, Gambino family, etc. to me. None are particularly good or nice people and I certainly wouldn't socialize with them in person, but that doesn't make them terrorists.
LINK
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(5) the term "domestic terrorism" means activities that-
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended-
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Not applicable. They're not exerting their criminality in the US for the political-based purposes in Bi, ii, and iii. They're just thugs engaging in illegal behavior to make money.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:59 pm to tgrgrd00
You sound like someone who would say "the Second Amendment only applies to US citizens."
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:This is the ONLY thing it is relevant to.
Irrelevant to the legal discussion
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:59 pm to texag7
quote:Where has anyone in this thread made that assertion?
You’re talking to someone that thinks Jan 6 was worse than 9-11. He is not a rational human
You pulled it from one of your orifices, didn't you?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Irrelevant to the legal discussion
No. Your premise is rejected. You mentioned US citizens. We are not discussing US citizens, but illegal aliens.
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The authoritarianism? Yes.
No, what you view as authoritarianism is simply because you disagree with the politics. You are a partisan hack. Full stop.
Actually, let me amend that. I don't think you're necessarily a partisan hack. I think what pisses you off is that people had the fricking audacity to challenge the holier than thou entitlement that most of you piece of shite attorneys have. And lord do I know. I spent seven years working for an AMLAW100 firm.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:00 pm to texag7
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You’re talking to someone that thinks Jan 6 was worse than 9-11
Well that's a lie.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the admin feels this way, they should litigate this in court with evidence to show compliance with the statutory authority granted to the executive.
This is the way.
Just win.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 pm to Centinel
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. You mentioned US citizens. We are not discussing US citizens, but illegal aliens.
The interpretation of the admin's arguments can apply to citizens.
Nipping their silliness in the bud now prevents that.
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No, what you view as authoritarianism is simply because you disagree with the politics.
An unaccountable Executive above judicial review is a non-partisan issue based solely in authoritarian fears.
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. I think what pisses you off is that people had the fricking audacity to challenge the holier than thou entitlement that most of you piece of shite attorneys have.
Naw
I see the law as nothing more than a service-based profession. Like IT or construction.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 pm to Indefatigable
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This is the way.
Is it?
Did the Biden admin have to litigate the de-listing of the Houthis as a terrorist org in a court of law, or did he just do so with the stroke of a pen?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not applicable. They're not exerting their criminality in the US for the political-based purposes in Bi, ii, and iii. They're just thugs engaging in illegal behavior to make money.
Conjecture and hearsay
C'mon you know better.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:03 pm to Indefatigable
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This is the way.
Just win.
Not only do they want to avoid this, they're double down by claiming their evidence is "national security" and not subject to review.
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