This so called “government shutdown” should make one thing very clear.

I really wish people understood what the government does and how it works before making these terribly inaccurate threads.

A shutdown proves nothing.

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I really wish people understood what the government does and how it works before making these terribly inaccurate threads. A shutdown proves nothing.

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We the people don’t need a federal behemoth. There’s not one person who audits private sector companies/organizations that wouldn’t be appalled at the inefficient manner that nearly all government bureaucracies are currently operating.

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We the people don’t need a federal behemoth. There’s not one person who audits private sector companies/organizations that wouldn’t be appalled at the inefficient manner that nearly all government bureaucracies are currently operating.

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I don’t disagree with any of that. But it’s completely unrelated to the shutdown.

Nonessential functions are still necessary, regardless of their efficiency.

Essential functions, such as food safety inspection are necessary. And before you say “the private sector can do better”, understand that the government is still accountable for that function and would write a terrible contract full of political favors and kickbacks that would be terribly managed that would have cost overruns and under perform.

If there’s one thing that the government sucks at, its contracting. Probably worse than just having them do it inefficiently.

So pick your poison.

The key to cutting government bloat is identifying the program that are not necessary and haveing them eliminated. That cuts both the “essential” functions, as well as non essential support functions of that program.

That’s up to congress.

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I don’t disagree with any of that. But it’s completely unrelated to the shutdown.

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I'm not seeing him trying to tie it into the shutdown

Looks like he is saying that we are getting a real time look at just how unnecessary much of what the government does really is

Or, if some of these things are necessary, then give the responsibility back to the states as the Constitution says we should

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Shut down all those departments for real and we'll see how much or how little we all utilize government services.

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I'll take that bet.

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Threads like this make me wish we would actually shut the whole thing down, without any of this essential/nonessential crap. The reason the inconvenience on the public has been so limited is almost half a million people are just showing up to work for free right now.

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Exactly, I'm one of the "non-essential" furloughed employees that has been sitting at home for 3 weeks.

But 2 weeks ago when South Louisiana got 3 inches of rain and everyone started looking at the river gages and wanted to know why "X" gage wasn't fixed, why is "Y" gage reading wrong, or is my house gonna flood, my non-essential arse got really popular with parish and local officials emails.

Funny how that works, I'm a spoiled unneeded government worker until you're shits about to flood.

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We'd have anarchy. No electricity, flights grounded, Stupid to say we could function without a government Society would collapse quickly if we really had a shutdown and no government, not just the poor frickers having to work without pay.

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Because it's been 200 years of bureaucracy that has taken away from self reliance. You obviously couldn't go back right away.

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no treasury means no dollars in circulation, the stock market would collapse,

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Like when the federal reserve helped cause the great depression?

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we'd default on our debts

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Hmm I wonder why we are in so much debt

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the police would walk off the job, there'd be no military, no cia, no FBI.

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I think this falls under national defense. However, we could do with a much more limited group of bureaucrats spying on the american people. Let's not mention how corrupt the NSA, CIA, FBI have been for their entire existences.

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So you do want no government and all that follows?

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No. I like the central government that was intended under the constitution. Do you want an extreme overreaching government and the nanny state that follows? Are you a communist?

Suck it up federal employees. No one, no one gave a filthy crap about all the private sector employees that were unemployed & received no paychecks during the 8 years of obamas disaster. At least you people will get all of your money back. I don't feel one bit of sorry for you & your pensions & retirements on our backs. We just have to sit here & give you everything you want. How about you people contribute back to us.