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re: This situation proves everything we have been trying to say since this whole BLM shite.....

Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83556 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:29 am to
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Ok, I get it. But there has to be a way to punish these people. Has to be.


Stop watching.

The media are whores to money. They give us what we want as a society. Until society stops chasing every controversy, neither will the media.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:41 am to
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And of course it isn't being viewed as racist. Is there any indication, at all, that the cop was racist? No.


I think that is the larger point here.

Cities have burned and Cops have been assassinated for much less - with the only difference being the colors of the two sides of the tragedy.

In this case, there was absolutely NO reasonable interpretation of 'fear for personal safety' to justify the shooting. Nothing but cultural rot - or abject incompetence - can explain what happened.

When the cities burned and cops assassinated they were protesting shootings where there were massive indications of reasonable 'fear for personal safety' to justify the shooting. Yet the riots and assassinations ensued.

What is the difference here???


THAT is the moral of this sad story.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:48 am to
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Let's talk; I know that's difficult because we're clearly so far apart, but let's give it a go.

A white person being shot by a black cop, in my mind, does not immediately signify racism on the part of the black cop.

A black person being shot by a white cop, in my mind, does not immediately signify racism on the part of the white cop.

Cops have to shoot people. It's a tragic part of their job, and often leads to mental health issues. Very few people, even good people doing their jobs, are comfortable with the idea that they've killed someone, even if it was justified.

I do think that a black person being shot by a cop under the same circumstances would be more likely to be racism. We can get into why, but it has to do with very simple, and very deep societal and racial prejudices. This applies to cops of every race.


This is about the most rational statement I've ever seen from a political opponent on tiger droppings.



I would take exception to only one small part of your post -
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black person being shot by a cop under the same circumstances would be more likely to be racism


I feel that 'more likely' is perhaps true - but so far down in probability that just uttering that 'possibility' is more prejudicious than ignoring it.

What is certain however, its that massive riots would ensue in that situation - and would be the driving factor for weeks, if not months. of 'analysis' on the MSM and stupid proclamations from race hustlers, and demands for statues all over the nation to be taken down, and streets to be renamed.

The unbalance in the reactions to this incident compared to past events that have caused so much disruption, destruction, and death is that major point to be taken from this tragedy.
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:59 am to
not random at all.

You can thank Obama for that. Minn was simply WAYY TOO WHITE for his taste.

Solution - send tropical climate immigrants to the coldest part of the country. Win win for both right?
Posted by LABred08
Dallas, Tx
Member since Feb 2011
413 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:00 am to
This post is hilarious. So BLM is wrong and called an Anti-Police Terrorist Group for rallying against police who have killed black men who were at the time non-threatening to police, BUT they're ALSO wrong for not rallying for an Australian immigrant victim of a police shooting by an African immigrant cop? So what does that mean, what does that prove? That the group is Pro-Black, Anti-Police or both? When its been said its Pro-Black, we've been told by the right that this is untrue. Its simply Anti-Police, which the police is a group that also includes blacks. So now the right wing defined Anti-Police organization is wrong for not defending this female Australian victim after she was shot by this African immigrant cop, well that means that the organization just might not be Anti-Police right?

Let me hip you folks to something, most blacks don't want to see anybody die senselessly. We've seen too much of it to our own. We say, its sad what happened to someone like her, she did not deserve that and we believe that this cop should get what he deserves, no matter his race.

Next, Black and African are not the same. Maybe it is to you, but its like saying American whites and Italians, Irish or Jews were the same at the turn of 20th century. Two distinct groups within themselves. Let me hip you to something else, just like those groups around the turn of the 20th century I mentioned above, most African Americans and African Immigrants don't like each other or associate. There is dislike and denigration among both groups and have been for long periods of time.

American blacks are probably gonna be some of your last to defend African immigrants, sorry to shred your theory.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:11 am to
This incident should serve as a reminder that most bad shootings by police are due to an officer panicking, losing his cool, or making a terrible error in a stressful situation. This explanation serves no political agenda and is therefore rejected, not because it is wrong but because it cannot utilized.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7114 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:25 am to
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It's been all over CNN all day. The morning shows especially


They are covering the story, but has the word "racism" been mentioned in connection with it?
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:27 am to
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You want the ability to punish people for writing things you feel aren't factual?


But if you consider yourself a major news network you should be held accountable or you should have to put for entertainment purposes only if you can't guarantee the truth. How hard is that to understand?
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 9:28 am
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:39 am to
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I feel that 'more likely' is perhaps true - but so far down in probability that just uttering that 'possibility' is more prejudicious than ignoring it. What is certain however, its that massive riots would ensue in that situation - and would be the driving factor for weeks, if not months. of 'analysis' on the MSM and stupid proclamations from race hustlers, and demands for statues all over the nation to be taken down, and streets to be renamed.


What people are missing is what BLM's role is.
The underlying theory of what they do is this:

If this were to have been a black person killed it wouldn't get nearly the same amount of attention. Their feeling is that since this was a white woman it gets the top billing of every newscast and that proper scrutiny will be given to the police.

Hate them as much as you want, but their goals have been advanced as you are more likely to see police shootings of blacks to be more closely scrutinized now than 5 years ago.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:45 am to
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Shouldn't most somali migrants be somewhere like new York or other major eastern cities?


They congregate in the same city for support. Denver has a shite ton of ethopians. I always ask them what they think of the winters, and they say cold.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26748 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:51 am to
The issue is not with BLM, but more with the biased media coverage.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 9:52 am to
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If this were to have been a black person killed it wouldn't get nearly the same amount of attention

Not sure how to respond to that - if you are talking about 50-60 years ago, perhaps there is some truth there.

But for the past generation - or two - any 'white on black' police action has been raised to the level of hysteria.

Perhaps you can clear up your statement - otherwise cannot even comment.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42573 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:00 am to
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But if you consider yourself a major news network you should be held accountable

I may be about time for some FCC rules on what a 'journalist' is. Perhaps in order to be labeled a "news" broadcast you have to adhere to some very basic codes of conduct on how the news is reported, steps taken to ensure bias is eliminated, documentation of sources, extreme penalties for violations.

Perhaps a review board for what they choose to report as opposed to what they decide to not report. Until the past decade, this has been the major bias of the 'news.' They report anything that is damaging to their target de jour, while ignoring anything that may put a snag in their agenda. This should not be allowed under the auspices of 'news.'

Not to say that stations cannot report whatever they want to report, but they should not be considered "news" unless they meet some standard that differentiates them from 'propaganda.'

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:44 am to
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But if you consider yourself a major news network you should be held accountable or you should have to put for entertainment purposes only if you can't guarantee the truth. How hard is that to understand?


Actually, it's very hard to understand because we're not talking about Algebra here.

Moreover, I can be dishonest as frick and report NOTHING but factual data. Surely you realize that also?

The media can't cover everything. They could tell nothing but the truth and simultaneously be completely full of shite. I'm sure if you think about it for a second, you can see how easy that would be.

But, beyond that. Even to the "facts". I hate to break it to you, but there are a lot of people who think things are "facts" that aren't "facts" or, even worse, there are a lot of people who honestly think things are "facts" but are quite simply wrong.

You would name a monitoring group to police up that? Good fricking luck. What do you do when the monitoring group concludes an incorrect "fact" and then punishes people for publishing correct "facts"?

Think man, think.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 10:48 am to
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They congregate in the same city for support. Denver has a shite ton of ethopians. I always ask them what they think of the winters, and they say cold.


I've got a better question than "why are certain immigrants in certain locations".

I want to know
"Who sent the memo so southeast asia that in the U.S., all nail salons must have Asian owners and labor?"

"Who sent the memo to India and Pakistan that they should all come here and own convenience stores and budget hotels"?

Not knocking it. I just find such things socially interesting regardless of where they occur in the world.
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