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This man says he's stockpiling billions of our photos...even Big Brother is worried

Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:07 pm
Even the government and tech giants are worried.

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If Hoan Ton-That is feeling the pressure, he isn't showing it.

Over the last month, fears about facial recognition technology and police surveillance have intensified, all thanks to Ton-That's startup, Clearview AI.

First came a front-page investigation in The New York Times, revealing Clearview has been working with law enforcement agencies to match photos of unknown faces to people's online images. Next, cease-and-desist letters rolled in from tech giants Twitter, Google and Facebook. Lawmakers made inquiries and New Jersey enacted a statewide ban on law enforcement using Clearview while it looks into the software.

But during an interview at CNN's studios in New York City last week, Ton-That didn't seem particularly fazed, saying the last few weeks were "interesting."

He demonstrated the technology and described himself as "honored" to kick off a broader conversation about facial recognition and privacy. He's eager to build a "great American company" with "the best of intentions" and wouldn't sell his product to Iran, Russia or China, he said. He claimed the technology is saving kids and solving crimes. And he said he welcomes government regulation...



...CNN Business saw firsthand how the technology works in a demonstration last week.

First, Ton-That ran a photo of my face though the database, pulling up in seconds multiple different pictures of me from across the internet.

Most jarringly, he found a photo that I had probably not seen in more than a decade, a picture that ran in a local newspaper in Ireland when I was 15-years-old and in high school. Needless to say, I look a lot different now than I did then; in fact, my producer, who has to spend far more time than she'd like looking at me through a camera, didn't even recognize me. But the system did.


You only thought you deleted that photo
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6680 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:09 pm to
scary.

If he can do that....imagine how much more our Gov has on us.....

If Obama was willing to spy on Trump.....no doubt he was willing to use dirt found on people to get what he wants....and I doubt he's the only politician..
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32642 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:10 pm to
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.imagine how much more our Gov has on us


He's likely a decade or more behind what NSA already has
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19349 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:11 pm to
He needs to
quote:

Ton-That

noise down
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
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And he said he welcomes government regulation...

That's just wrong thinking Hoan.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
luckily I always leave my face out of any dick pics I send
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118670 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
I would love to understand the algorithm used for facial recognition. Probably based on ratios of different parts of the face but how does the computer identify a particular part of the face from an image file?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Even the government and tech giants are worried.
I think this could be the one issue that everyone has concerns about, from the prog filth to the 4chaners and everyone in between.

I mean we can see just how imperfect picture identifying algorithms can be on google (black people showing up on gorilla searches), so imagine just how many errors facial recognition will have, and false positives could easily result in wrongful convictions.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:14 pm to
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He's likely a decade or more behind what NSA already has

...and they are reading this thread now.

I was very good friends with a retired military man who was NSA for several years.

He told me 15 years ago. "Want the government to read something almost as fast as you post it?"

NSA

Done! That acronym is all it takes.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:16 pm to
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He's likely a decade or more behind what NSA already has
I doubt it. They may have been working on it longer, but even far more basic technology is not as advanced as one would think, despite being developed by smarter and more talented people (e.g., not government workers).
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35953 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:17 pm to
To think that the Unabomber's Manifesto was spot on about technology and modern society.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77947 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:18 pm to
google knows my dog's name and can tell him apart from other dogs that look like him
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:19 pm to
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If he can do that....imagine how much more our Gov has on us.....


They have pretty much everything including that you posted this comment on this site

Whatever they don't have they can create
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10892 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:20 pm to
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google knows my dog's name and can tell him apart from other dogs that look like him


But that super bowl ad was so touching...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:25 pm to
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To think that the Unabomber's Manifesto was spot on about technology and modern society.
I mean his manifesto was actually quite well-regarded, and did receive his PhD in mathematics from a top university.

Too bad that a genius with sane ideas wasted it on insane acts of terror. Although it may be more unfortunate that those ideas would have never been widely known otherwise, which is a sad reflection of our society.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:27 pm to
Wow. That's gonna piss a lot of people off.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24734 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:30 pm to
How many candidates for public office are selected by their party's powerbrokers, in part, because they are already compromised, and thus, easy to control.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:51 pm to
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luckily I always leave my face out of any dick pics I send
Unlike Mayor Pete.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:59 pm to
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luckily I always leave my face out of any dick pics I send
quote:

Unlike Mayor Pete.

During photo ops Pete keeps his hidden in Chasten's arse.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
45986 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:07 pm to
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scary. If he can do that....imagine how much more our Gov has on us..... If Obama was willing to spy on Trump.....no doubt he was willing to use dirt found on people to get what he wants....and I doubt he's the only politician..


I think the movie, Enemy of the State is pretty accurate.
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