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re: This isn’t a great look for the pentagon. They appear to claim Mormons aren’t Christians

Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:00 am to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8132 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:00 am to
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Your trans analogy is not logical.

You don't want to admit that.
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A woman is defined by biology / chromosomes.

Christianity is defined by its religious scripture, the Old and the New Testament. Judaism is defined by the Torah(OT) and the Talmud, Islam by the Koran, and Mormonism by the Book of Mormon.
I can very clearly draw you Venn Diagrams that show these are not the same, even if the Venn diagram for Islam covers OT and NT.
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You either are a woman or not.

You are either a Christian or you are not.
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If you are born a man, you can have all the surgery you want, but you are still biologically a man.
If you follow anything but Christianity you are a non Christian.
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Systems of belief are open to interpretation by everyone. There are as many systems of belief as there are human beings, because every human being has a belief system that is unique to them alone.

No Christian believes that, the concept is Satanic.
There is one true catholic (lower case) faith that's how its always been. We admit we may be wrong about our interpretations, but the only thing that matters is the Faith left to us from Christ.
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That is not to say that belief systems cannot be grouped by commonality. They definitely can be and are. For example, the Catholic Church is one grouping of common beliefs, and yet every Catholic has beliefs that are unique to them.

Again, thats a Satanic mindset and no Christian believes that.
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So, your belief is that Mormons are not Christians, but Mormons believe that they are.
No, by the definition of Christianity passed down they are not Christians as defined by what Christians are.
Just because I believe a male is not a woman and you believe they are does not make your views equal to my insisting that the historical definition of woman must be respected.
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Human beings cannot sit in judgement of each other regarding their differences in beliefs because humans are not qualified to make that judgement.

Again that's completely ignorant of the New Testament, Jesus, Paul, and the rest of the authors constantly told the Church to be on guard against deceiving people.
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Galatians 1
6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

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If Jesus is an actual entity,

Said no Christian ever, you obviously have no idea what Christianity is.
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then only Jesus can determine who qualifies as a Christian

But you just said,
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Systems of belief are open to interpretation by everyone.

This is really sad if you somehow think you are being logical, you are a logical mess.
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No human being can make that determination on his behalf.

There is a difference between someone claiming to beleive only Christianity, and someone claiming to follow another holy book.
The first is hard, the second is well defined, Christ intended for Christians to know Him and how to follow him.
This is really basic and you don't seem to get that.
Most obviously because you not only are not a Christian, you seem to be wholly unfamiliar with it.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
190 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:09 am to
Mormons are heretics.. pure and simple. I had 2 Uncles who converted from being CHRISTIANS to becoming Mormons.

They have like 5000 kids, all are in the Mormon construction mafia...are doomsday peppers like their Chruch commands..

Mormons ignore Joseph Smiths alcoholism, child rape, gambling, murder of Christians.

Basically, they think God said oops, I made a mistake with Christ..it's really Joseph Smith.

Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15313 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:11 am to
Mormons arent Christian.

They are in the same group as Jehovahs, seventh day adventists, etc
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:16 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76620 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:34 am to
Not Christian rightfully so.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3247 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:53 am to
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Christianity is defined by its religious scripture, the Old and the New Testament.


But everyone interprets it differently.

I knew my reply would be beyond your ability to comprehend. Your mind cannot be changed.

Many people agree with you. Many people don't.

But none of that matters.

If Jesus is an actual entity, then only Jesus can determine who qualifies as Christian.
Posted by StevieG504
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
3968 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:55 am to
Well they don’t believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ so that’s kind of a big deal
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:58 am to
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Well they don’t believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ


This isn’t true.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3282 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:12 am to
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Well they don’t believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ so that’s kind of a big deal


The Mormons believe in the resurrection. The Jehovah's Witnesses don't.
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
190 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:23 am to
Mormons are worse than most heretical religions.

I've studied them for decades and watched how they turned 2 amazing Uncles into Creatures in the movie, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. THEY ARE OFF...their whole game is to hide their weirdness.

Check out their wedding ceremonies...at the end of the ceremony, at a wedding, in a church...they read an oath, about keeping the traditions a secret, PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.

Then they all in synce, in their all white sacred outfits, make a symbol of SLASHING THEIR THROATS.

As in keep this shite secret....so many more stories.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 10:27 am
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
190 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:32 am to
C'mon man...they don't believe Jesus Christ is the Lord Savior, Son of God.

Yes , they believe Jesus resurrected...BUT...a big but, he's just a prophet...a guide for the time.

So, yeah, that's kind of a big deal.

Check out Joseph Smith's life...Plenty of info...he was a known alcoholic, child rapist and the night before he was assassinated, he was so drunk in a bar, the local paper on the day of his death, wrote about Joseph Smith causing a raucous.

He was finally killed by the locals...that same day.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8132 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:32 am to
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But everyone interprets it differently.

Do you need me to draw you a Venn Diagram?


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I knew my reply would be beyond your ability to comprehend. Your mind cannot be changed.

Dude, this is idiocy. I drew you a Venn diagram.
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Many people agree with you. Many people don't.

Yes, those would be Mormons. They disagree with Christians on the definition of Christianity. That is why they are different.
So simple.
Two different definitions of what Christianity is = not the same.
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But none of that matters.

Of course it matters, what a non Christian viewpoint.
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If Jesus is an actual entity, then only Jesus can determine who qualifies as Christian.

You act like he hid the definition.
He was explicit with the definition. We have 5 books with his words and many others directly inspired by him.
God revealed his plan.
He didn't hide it.

Not just random books, but books that lay out the Christian faith, just like how the book of Mormon lays out what Mormons have faith in.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38275 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:44 am to
Tim Tebow is as solid of a human being as it gets. But the book of Mormon is illegitimate and sacrilegious to Christianity, even if there are parallels. There are parallels between Christianity and the Black Hebrew Isrealites too, and those clowns are straight-up ungodly racists and hate-filled bigots.
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
190 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:45 am to
Great Post...

Ever notice Mormons never defend Joseph Smith and refute any of his troubled, chaotic BS life.

And we know Mormons read this site...but they never chime in...

The truth is chronicled by MANY independent sources and eyewitness.

Joseph Smith was a fraud
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 10:46 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29251 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:04 am to
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Mormons aren’t Christians.


Many Christians don't believe Catholics are Christians.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:06 am to
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Yes , they believe Jesus resurrected...BUT...a big but, he's just a prophet...a guide for the time.


Wrong. You know you guys can look this shite up. Some of you are making some incorrect statements about what they believe.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:08 am to
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Tim Tebow is as solid of a human being as it gets. But the book of Mormon is illegitimate and sacrilegious to Christianity


Bro, Tim Tebow isn’t Mormon.

This thread is full of retards just posting random shite.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1937 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:08 am to
You need to find a job. Make yourself useful.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144050 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:10 am to
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Well they don’t believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ so that’s kind of a big deal


They believe God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are separate gods.

One of the foundational tenements of Christianity is the Nicean Creed. - “We believe in one God……..”
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64158 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:12 am to
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One of the foundational tenements of Christianity is the Nicean Creed


It took over 300 years to get there. There were some very disparate versions of Christianity floating around before this.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55920 posts
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:30 am to
This thread is pretty crazy considering I had a couple of Mormons (young men) show up on my doorstep yesterday afternoon.

I asked them to show me in the OT or NT where scripture speaks/indicates of a prophet coming after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ who would be considered on the level as Moses and Elijah. My discernment tells me if Joseph Smith was chosen to straighten Christians out regarding missing/omitted scripture nearly 1900 years after the death of Jesus Christ there would be some scripture to support the Mormon church's claim the Joseph Smith is a trusted prophet of the Creator. The Creator would not withhold the knowledge of the coming of such an important prophet in His scriptures or to his children. The Apostle John, with the guidance of Jesus and the Holy Spirit penned The Revelation. If a prophet was to come after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ it would have likely been included in The Revelation. I can't see anything in The Revelation that foretells the arrival of Joseph Smith, the prophet who will set Christians straight about the true teachings of Jesus Christ.
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