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re: This is why millennials are unhappy
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:42 am to JJJimmyJimJames
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:42 am to JJJimmyJimJames
The sad part is that millennials are facing real economic gripes that are holding them back as a cohort. These problems are mostly caused by bad government policies which need to be reversed. However, older conservatives are often too preoccupied with making “slams” in the woke culture war to take notice and propose policy answers to policy problems.
HUD subsidized rent and short term rentals are completely destroying the housing market right now. Bad policy in farm subsidies is causing food and fertilizer prices to skyrocket while land lies unused. Bad policy in the financial sector is destroying all of the small and midsized banks and replacing them with an oligarchy. The same practice is happening in nearly every economic sector from meat processing to telecom to web hosting to appliances, insurance, etc. Bad government policy is emboldening oligarchs to control entire economic sectors eliminating consumer choices. These oligarchies then behave like cartels, colluding rather than competing. These cartels are the ones pushing progressive values in the mainstream.
Government has intruded itself all over the market, and rather than proposing which regulations need to go to fix specific issues, conservatives focus only on stopping the bad Marxist ideas intended to exploit the current situation. Fighting bad ideas isn’t bad in a vacuum, but it’s not enough when the status does not work either. The conservatives need to stop fighting only to preserve a status quo that doesn’t work and instead seek to restore our government to a policy structure that DID work, or at least worked better.
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it?
Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse)
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
HUD subsidized rent and short term rentals are completely destroying the housing market right now. Bad policy in farm subsidies is causing food and fertilizer prices to skyrocket while land lies unused. Bad policy in the financial sector is destroying all of the small and midsized banks and replacing them with an oligarchy. The same practice is happening in nearly every economic sector from meat processing to telecom to web hosting to appliances, insurance, etc. Bad government policy is emboldening oligarchs to control entire economic sectors eliminating consumer choices. These oligarchies then behave like cartels, colluding rather than competing. These cartels are the ones pushing progressive values in the mainstream.
Government has intruded itself all over the market, and rather than proposing which regulations need to go to fix specific issues, conservatives focus only on stopping the bad Marxist ideas intended to exploit the current situation. Fighting bad ideas isn’t bad in a vacuum, but it’s not enough when the status does not work either. The conservatives need to stop fighting only to preserve a status quo that doesn’t work and instead seek to restore our government to a policy structure that DID work, or at least worked better.
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it?
Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse)
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:51 am
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Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:53 am to TigerFan55555
quote:The problem is, you view it as playing. It isn't.
two can play this...
Is burger flipping any more valuable to society or any more of a skillset than it was 60yrs ago? If not, why should that skillset value in real economic terms be artificially inflated? What good other than fanning inflation would that serve? Serious question.
On the other hand, if TigerFan55555 puts his own capital at risk, starts a new burger company, then successfully expands it to multiple locations, he has created new jobs, and brought new value to the community. As his wealth increases, does that mean his burger flippers should double, triple, or quadruple their pay?
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:55 am to kingbob
quote:
The sad part is that millennials are facing real economic gripes that are holding them back as a cohort. These problems are mostly caused by bad government policies which need to be reversed. However, older conservatives are often too preoccupied with making “slams” in the woke culture war to take notice and propose policy answers to policy problems.
HUD subsidized rent and short term rentals are completely destroying the housing market right now. Bad policy in farm subsidies is causing food and fertilizer prices to skyrocket while land lies unused. Bad policy in the financial sector is destroying all of the small and midsized banks and replacing them with an oligarchy. The same practice is happening in nearly every economic sector from meat processing to telecom to web hosting to appliances, insurance, etc. Bad government policy is emboldening oligarchs to control entire economic sectors eliminating consumer choices. These oligarchies then behave like cartels, colluding rather than competing. These cartels are the ones pushing progressive values in the mainstream.
Government has intruded itself all over the market, and rather than proposing which regulations need to go to fix specific issues, conservatives focus only on stopping the bad Marxist ideas intended to exploit the current situation. Fighting bad ideas isn’t bad in a vacuum, but it’s not enough when the status does not work either. The conservatives need to stop fighting only to preserve a status quo that doesn’t work and instead seek to restore our government to a policy structure that DID work, or at least worked better.
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it?
Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse)
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
lot of good shite in here... and im not a millenial...
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:57 am to kingbob
quote:
The sad part is that millennials are facing real economic gripes that are holding them back as a cohort. These problems are mostly caused by bad government policies which need to be reversed. However, older conservatives are often too preoccupied with making “slams” in the woke culture war to take notice and propose policy answers to policy problems.
HUD subsidized rent and short term rentals are completely destroying the housing market right now. Bad policy in farm subsidies is causing food and fertilizer prices to skyrocket while land lies unused. Bad policy in the financial sector is destroying all of the small and midsized banks and replacing them with an oligarchy. The same practice is happening in nearly every economic sector from meat processing to telecom to web hosting to appliances, insurance, etc. Bad government policy is emboldening oligarchs to control entire economic sectors eliminating consumer choices. These oligarchies then behave like cartels, colluding rather than competing. These cartels are the ones pushing progressive values in the mainstream.
Government has intruded itself all over the market, and rather than proposing which regulations need to go to fix specific issues, conservatives focus only on stopping the bad Marxist ideas intended to exploit the current situation. Fighting bad ideas isn’t bad in a vacuum, but it’s not enough when the status does not work either. The conservatives need to stop fighting only to preserve a status quo that doesn’t work and instead seek to restore our government to a policy structure that DID work, or at least worked better.
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it?
Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse)
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
lot of good shite in here... and im not a millenial...
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:57 am to kingbob
quote:
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it? Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse) Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
spot on 
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:59 am to kingbob
quote:
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:01 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:It's hard to underrate one of the Rushmore four. TR was an excellent POTUS.
Teddy Roosevelt is prob one of the most underrated presidents
quote:Not as much as was created in its break up. That move was about creation of capitalistic competition out of economically constraining monopolies.
He broke up Standard Oil... look how much wealth was created by breaking up that company.
The closest correlate in examples you cited would probably be Internet Explorer vs Netscape, which MS eventually lost.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:11 pm to VictoryHill
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:18 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
That move was about creation of capitalistic competition out of economically constraining monopolies.
this is why Twitter/Amazon colluded to pull Gettr offline...
I would break both companies up for that move alone...
different topic, but see how the elite stopped Robinhood traders from shorting gamestop?... what happened to that hedgefund manager? nothing... what happened to Robinhood?. nothing.... that cant happen... but it does because the elites control everything... and they are Dems and Republicans..
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:22 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:Youre proving my point. The prosecutor had the option to turn him down. Stop making excuses for them and stop endorsing corruption.
Soros gave a prosecuter (many) millions of dollars just to let criminals back out on the streets... millionaires fund candidates at all levels...
quote:.
so someone makes a million dollars profit and theyre "not successful"? whatever dude.
wha? That’s what you got from that quote? quote:Hyperbolic. But, yes, the government controls too much.
the government controls everything, it always has.
quote:You’re the one that claims to be “republican” and “free market” but are actively arguing for more government intervention and limiting the free market. Who is using your enemy’s argument?
you get hung up on your ideals and you don't even realize your enemy is using them against you...
quote:In some cases. But you aren’t making the same arguments th why were.
Pat Buchannan and Ross Perot were right 20+ years ago...
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:23 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:I know according to internet chatter that Robinhood traders were the supposed nidus of all that. They weren't. There was bigger money on both sides of supposed RH trades than RH's entire collective membership could account for. RH traders were simply along for the ride. That 30-somethings thought their $2K RH trades were driving the market is quaint.
different topic, but see how the elite stopped Robinhood traders from shorting gamestop?... what happened to that hedgefund manager? nothing... what happened to Robinhood?. nothing.... that cant happen... but it does because the elites control everything... and they are Dems and Republicans..
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:26 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:
lot of good shite in here... and im not a millenial...
It's a really good post. It illustrates well the folly of trying to frame this as a "generational" argument. It's just a lazy approach and, as others have alluded, is in many ways playing into the hands of those who are truly set on the destruction of what is good.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:27 pm to kingbob
quote:I like your post. It’s pretty spot on. Except, Republicans have it right. The ONLY thing thst is going to reverse the trend is reversion to more personal responsibility, and less dependence on government to make everything “affordable” to everyone.
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it?
Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse)
Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie!
I see no appetite for that among any significant population group.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:44 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
Millenial: hey, this is a problem, can you fix it? Democrats: yes it is a problem, we hear you, we see you, here’s our solution (that makes the problem WAY worse) Republicans: quit whining, that’s not a problem, pull yourself up by your boot straps, you Commie! In my day if we didn’t like it, we went to die in Vietnam. Not me, personally, because I had a college deferment…
no more like: The marxists trying to take the country over want us to bitch so we can divide the country even further
free Americans with brains: quit attacking people for the age they are. While you are at it, quit all the other marxist supporting NONSENSE.
milennial: I'll be back every three days after the marxists give me more marching orders... hmm, I like Cloward-Piven technique too
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 12:51 pm to thetempleowl
quote:
If you are a fully grown adult making minimum wage, you are doing it wrong.
And If you are try to raise a family on minimum wage you are also doing it wrong.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:02 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:it's less about the government making things "more affordable" and more about reigning in institutional investment in middle class housing, repealing certain laws and regulations, etc.
I like your post. It’s pretty spot on. Except, Republicans have it right. The ONLY thing thst is going to reverse the trend is reversion to more personal responsibility, and less dependence on government to make everything “affordable” to everyone.
you can't personal responsibility your way out of ~450k median house sales and ~70k median household income on a macro scale
things are very broken and ignoring it will not make things any better
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:08 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
Youre proving my point. The prosecutor had the option to turn him down. Stop making excuses for them and stop endorsing corruption.
omg dude, im not making excuses for her... im telling you what's wrong with the system when people have too much money, they wield too much power...
quote:and who controls the politicians.. the wealthy elite..
Hyperbolic. But, yes, the government controls too much.
quote:
You’re the one that claims to be “republican” and “free market” but are actively arguing for more government intervention and limiting the free market
again, you missed my point... Dems are using this against you and you dont even know it... I bet you thought companies should be able to make you take the jab because "free market" dont tell a private company what to do... they are holding your ideals against you... Ive repeatedly stated you need balance... the elites need a reckoning... but voters (both sides) are too stupid to know...
Texas just elected two more rinos because they're stupid..
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:13 pm to TigerFan55555
quote:Yes. You are. It's clear blame displacement.
omg dude, im not making excuses for her...
quote:Ok Bernie.
im telling you what's wrong with the system when people have too much money, they wield too much power...
quote:If you're arguing that it's impossible for politicians to have integrity... you're proving my point that government shouldn't have the power it does.
and who controls the politicians.. the wealthy elite..
That said, maybe we should be like Venezuela. There are no rich people there. They're corruption-free, amiright?
quote:I don't care. Not trying to win a popularity contest. FREE ICECREAM! is really popular. It doesn't make it good policy.
again, you missed my point... Dems are using this against you and you dont even know it...
quote:Nice projection. It's also wrong.
I bet you thought companies should be able to make you take the jab because "free market" dont tell a private company what to do.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:23 pm to Taxing Authority
Well, of course we need more responsibility and less government, but just saying we need “less government” isn’t enough. Republicans need to go on offense and be proactive rather than reactive. They need to put forward actual plans to change bad government policy rather than just support the status quo while nebulously touting “smaller government” ideals that never result in attempted legislation. You know, it’s okay to author good bills that don’t become laws. It gives you something to campaign with and attack your opponents for not supporting.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 1:31 pm to kingbob
quote:
Well, of course we need more responsibility and less government, but just saying we need “less government” isn’t enough. Republicans need to go on offense and be proactive rather than reactive. They need to put forward actual plans to change bad government policy rather than just support the status quo while nebulously touting “smaller government” ideals that never result in attempted legislation. You know, it’s okay to author good bills that don’t become laws. It gives you something to campaign with and attack your opponents for not supporting.
100%...
and this is how you know TaxAuthority is an older republican... and he doesnt understand that "smaller government" isnt enough...There must be an evening out happen first...The top has too much wealth and power and it can only be "evened out" by the government... I think a great way to do it is incentivizing companies to spread the wealth to their employees through the tax code..
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