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re: This is why millennials are unhappy

Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:29 pm to
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Let's apply that 3.45x to some of these amounts from 1970, and see how we are doing.



Why? That is a terrible way to analyze any of this. I'm not reading through all 21 pages, but i'm hopeful they all point out the stupidity of this logic as well.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:36 pm to
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3. As teenagers in HS we always looked for MW jobs that involved more pleasant working conditions. My brother got a job scrubbing the inside of oil tanks. I got a job in radio. I won.


First summer job was cutting grass on a fence row with a sling blade, and baling hay. The next summer I painted the interiors of apartments in a housing project. No AC, but it was out of the sun, I didn’t think life could get any better.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138509 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 5:07 pm to
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I didn’t think life could get any better.


We got married early.
MsNC dropped out of school (she had a full ride at Tulane) to support me, and worked as a doctor's receptionist for my first years of MedSchool.

Then she went back to school, got an LSU scholly, and her finance/accounting degrees.

Throughout we rigorously stuck to our personal budget where even an extra $10 per month was huge. As with you EA6B, we didn’t think life could get any better.

In terms of our happiness living $2$ in our 600sq ft apt, I'm not sure we were that far off. Would a millennial feel the same? Probably not. The millennial would be embarrassed about messaging any of the above would send to his/her friends.
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60457 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:27 am to
i hate how these threads turn into minimum wage debates

i almost think the fight for 15 and whatnot is a psyop
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 8:36 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17732 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 8:38 am to
The cost of living has gone up, whereas wages have not. This is a legitimate issue that has been caused by government.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:28 am to
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Throughout we rigorously stuck to our personal budget where even an extra $10 per month was huge. As with you EA6B, we didn’t think life could get any better.
Some of my best times in life, were when I was poor as isht. Not that I'd want to do it again, but, I'd be pizzed if someone denied me the experiences I had. At least now in retrospect.

Hard days. But very satisfying in the end.

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In terms of our happiness living $2$ in our 600sq ft apt, I'm not sure we were that far off. Would a millennial feel the same? Probably not. The millennial would be embarrassed about messaging any of the above would send to his/her friends.
One of the interesting things is we see today is many successful people do not consider themselves successful. (See my posts earlier in this thread).

I think that's because they had such an easy time--they don't feel accomplished.

Some of the loudest whiners are college educated.

I'm sorry but if you've had the opportunity to get a college education and call yourself "oppressed" you're a clown. You had the chance to assemble all the tools you need to be successful.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14648 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 9:42 am to
That is about right.
First job out of college, (72) I started at $10,900.
First house was about $21,000.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 10:19 am to
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Marxist-socialists refer to an expanding CEO-BurgerFipper wage gap as problematic. Capitalists refer to compensating the CEO of a rapidly expanding company at an increasingly lower-rate per location as SUCCESS!


two can play this...

300 of those CEO's get together to buy the majority of congressmen and women to do their bidding and screw everyone while they get richer and richer... In a perfect world people making millions would pay their employees more, but we don't live in that world, because people aren't perfect... I'm a capitalist and a republican. but a corporate oligarchy will trample rights every bit as fast as an overstepping government.. just look at covid mandates... what im talking about is evening out the power, more balance... last time i checked that was a conservative idea.. I suggest you read the book partnership economics... which is also faith based... 10 ultra rich people should not be steering the world as they see fit... Im talking about Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett etc... this is also one of the reasons why Teddy Roosevelt is prob one of the most underrated presidents.. He broke up Standard Oil... look how much wealth was created by breaking up that company.- You got Chevron, Exxon, Mobil... many companies were formed from that break up... We need more companies broken up... especially big tech.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 10:40 am to
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300 of those CEO's get together to buy the majority of congressmen and women to do their bidding and screw everyone while they get richer and richer...
Then the problem is congressmen and women, not "the rich". Great argument that government shouldn't have so much power.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60457 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 10:42 am to
again, why do these threads, and american discourse in general, always devolve into talk about minimum wage vs inflation and CEO pay? no one who matters gives a frick about minimum wage.

however, housing, education, healthcare, etc costs are extremely high relative to median wages and it's a valid problem that's not getting any better... and "move to nebraska" is not a macro solution.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:02 am to
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Then the problem is congressmen and women, not "the rich".


It takes a Million dollars to run for congress for the media and voters to believe youre a "Viable" candidate... how the hell do you think someone can raise a million dollars?.. the Rich get their people elected and keep them there after theyre elected... i said balance. Congress needs Campaign finance limits and term limits, one doesnt do a damn thing without the other.. Buisnesses need oversight, otherwise they can control whos elected and whos not.. They can also crush competition if they get too big... im all for the free market, until there is a massive unfair playing field. then it needs to be re-balanced.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37389 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:06 am to
Milk is a racket. In the 20's guys like Capone wanted in on it. The markup was ridiculous. In Louisiana you pay a premium for milk because of the subsidy provided by the state for local dairy farmers.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:10 am to
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It takes a Million dollars to run for congress for the media and voters to believe youre a "Viable" candidate... how the hell do you think someone can raise a million dollars?.. the Rich get their people elected and keep them there after theyre elected...
If government didn't have the power to determine their success, they'd not be interested. Do you think an billionaires are funding the Bunkie mayoral candidates? Of course not. No power.

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im all for the free market, until there is a massive unfair playing field
Yea. Saying you're "for the free market" as long as no one is successful within it, means you aren't really for the free market. And as long as you empower government to destroy businesses-- you guarantee those businesses will do everything they can to protect their business. If government was trying to destroy your life, you'd do the same.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:12 am
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:13 am to
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however, housing, education, healthcare, etc costs are extremely high relative to median wages and it's a valid problem that's not getting any better... and "move to nebraska" is not a macro solution.



because they are enamored with "minimum wage" isn't supposed to be a permanent job... which, I agree with, that's an entry level job for young people to learn how to work...

What I have a problem with is CEO's making millions and billions and the person making 60k a year doesn't get jack shite... not everyone can move up to CEOs and many times you gotta know someone to move up (or be a diversity hire now), ... I get tired of seeing it. then some idiot says "work harder" or move to another company" like, bitch i work 90 hour weeks working two jobs and own my own business, don't talk to me about hard work... not when i have to pay rising cost of everything else you just mentioned... healthcare/housing/etc.. you shouldn't have to work 90 hour weeks just to live... while some fricker walks into a CEO role and is instantly set for life... frick that... and Im a republican...

there is nothing wrong with setting up the tax code to incentivize companies to pay their workers more and pay less in taxes... we incentivize shite all the time... hell the democrats incentivize people to sit on their arse and make babies.... the wage gap is a damn problem...
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:17 am to
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What I have a problem with is CEO's making millions and billions and the person making 60k a year doesn't get jack shite... not everyone can move up to CEOs.. while some fricker walks into a CEO role and is instantly set for life
So why not become your own CEO? Start your company and make it successful if it's so easy and the CEO's role has no value. SHould be easy. What's stopping you?

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there is nothing wrong with setting up the tax code to incentivize companies to pay their workers more and pay less in taxes...
You do realize that salary is 100% deductible as an expense, yes?
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:21 am to
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there is nothing wrong with setting up the tax code to incentivize companies to pay their workers more and pay less in taxes.


And when the cost of goods continue to rise you’ll be complaining that your new salary isn’t enough.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:23 am to
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If government didn't have the power to determine their success, they'd not be interested. Do you think an billionaires are funding the Bunkie mayoral candidates? Of course not. No power.



youre out of your mind, Soros gave a prosecuter (many) millions of dollars just to let criminals back out on the streets... millionaires fund candidates at all levels...

quote:

Yea. Saying you're "for the free market" as long as no one is successful within it,

so someone makes a million dollars profit and theyre "not successful"? whatever dude..

quote:

empower government to destroy businesses-

the government controls everything, it always has. ours just used to be elected... now, theyre installed...

Ive said nothing about controlling outcomes or picking winners and losers. Ive said balance out the power...

youre way of thinking JEff Bezos will run the world in 4 years... you have to have balance and the vision to see where someone may get too powerful and get in front of it... kinda like i said 15 years ago that the mergers of CBS/Viacom and ABC/Disney should have never been allowed. they were trying to consolidate power and they did. now we have a media controlled by the left.... You have nothing but woke CEOs now... look at how many CEOs resigned right before Covid...hundreds, thousands.. They all knew

you get hung up on your ideals and you don't even realize your enemy is using them against you... that's the difference between you and me... Pat Buchannan and Ross Perot were right 20+ years ago...
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:29 am to
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i hate how these threads turn into minimum wage debates

These threads are the personification of marxism - and nothing else.

CRT techique with pure totalitarian tyranny is the goal.

Full blown marxism supporters:

TigerOnTheMNountain
CarRamrod
Esquire
more to come
GreatLakesiger24
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15319 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:35 am to
My age group is unhappy because they're losers brought up by losers, raising losers.

It's pretty simple.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:41 am to
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CRT techique with pure totalitarian tyranny is the goal.


CRT isnt even the main problem in education but thats all republicans are focusing on... if you just fixed the system CRT and SEL would be gone in 5 minutes. REpublicans are so stupid they will pass a bill banning CRT and the Dems will just rename it and keep going. Fix the system Accountability/Finance/Curricula/diploma system and you never have to worry about that crap again...

God, now i know what Ross Perot and PAt Buchannan felt like watching a republicans support a globalist Bush and cheering him on only to know everything thats about to happen and feel powerless to do anything about... god i hate knowing everything...
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