re: This is what we are up against you can't reason with them

Even a "Cult" is formed around a central Idea, albeit the moniker 'cult' is usually associated with a particular individual who is the leader of the group which serves the said particular idea, which is assumed to be a pernicious and dangerous lie. This label is assigned via a subjective opinion in regard to the basic Idea.

Trump Nation (the supposed 'cult') serves the Idea that OPPOSES the "fundamental change" from a Constitutional Republic based on "God-given inalienable Rights" to a 'Democratic' Authoritarian Socialist model of governance. Nazi Germany back when was such a model, and the Nazis truly believed they served the greater good. Again, subjective. And they could not be persuaded, by any means other than a violent beat down that they were wrong. That is where we are.

This issue cannot be settled via talk (politics) and voting, as the very issue is one of whether 'Majority Rule'/"Mob Rule" (as in Nazi Germany) should be morally acceptable an imposed via subtle or blatant forms of violence on the Minority. Thomas Sowell's brilliant essay re "First Principle" laid it out; talk only aggravates the social climate as people become more contemptuous and hateful of an Opposition which seeks to subdue them with ultimate "fight fire with fire" violent means. Which ultimately leads to violent means in defense of personal security and sovereignty. In this case, the sovereignty to teach one's own child the "First Principle"/Value that will essentially become their (subjective) life. In effect, the usurpation of their will and the shaping of their 'Soul'.

The OP is spot on, "reason" will be powerless to reconcile an issue wherein the basic First Principle is POLAR, and a zero-sum game. Throw in the Idea of Evil - of the which one Side believes is a valid and critical aspect of said First Principle...and it's a dogfight straight to "The Fermi Paradox". Or "The Second Coming" of Jesus/Truth that may indeed be the only hope for this current crop of Humanity.

I often watch "Acts of random kindness" on YouTube. It's uplifting. The Love that is the basis for those acts is the only hope for Humanity. IMO, it is the individual love in the hearts of those who do the acts that will determine the individual's destiny in their next life. I.e., "Karma". Of course, the Jesus Card would be in play for Christians and one's 'judgment', for those that invoke said Mercy. I guess those who do good acts, but don't invoke Jesus' offer, are on their own and it will be between them and Jesus as to the next life consequences. That is above my pay grade to speculate on that; and a Jesus warned about "judging others", I let it go.

Bottom line...dog fight coming. It's Prophetic. Lord have mercy on them who worship REAL Love, as Lucifer will indeed appear "as an angel of light" to ramp up the fight off the scale.

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They illegally wiretapped his office

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Uh huh

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Registered on: 8/1/2023

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Change “DEAD” to “SNIFFED” and that perfectly describes Biden when he sees a child.

Says the patient responding from the psych ward

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Name ONE substantive Trump lie that remotely approaches the level of corruption by the previous admin or the one in power now. JUST ONE. (we both know that'll never happen)

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"I was able to get something approved that, you know, that has proven to have saved a lot of lives," Trump said, "Some people say that I saved 100 million lives worldwide."

"That without the vaccines you would have had a thing...where perhaps 100 million people died."

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So much of what you know just isn't true.

What if you were to find out it was true? Then what?

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SEK, you can only reason with people who aren't "willfully ignorant" of the facts. There are just some folks here who are like the pigeon playing chess. They walk all over the playing surface, they knock over the pieces and shite all over the board, then declare they have won.

None of the verifiable facts you have presented will ever be considered or even remotely acknowledged by these people.

You’re the prime example on this board of a brainwashed sheep. No one to the right of Obama places any value on what you post

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you apparently missed trump saying he wants to fire federal workers who dont pass his cult following requirements and to put the doj and irs under control by potus.
nothing in his announced plan meets your ideal.

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Well guess what celticcuck the current admin. is doing this already. DOJ and IRS are a arm of the democratic party, along with the FBI and other govt. organization. Also, if you dont tow the line you are fired. Example would be the FBI whistleblowers. They need to be purged and quickly before we lose our Republic.