Started By
Message
locked post

This is really where the Ukraine ware started

Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181721 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:00 am
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41244 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:01 am to
SFP says they were just there by coincidence on vacation
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475609 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:02 am to
quote:

February 2014,


Naw

It started months prior
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18687 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:02 am to
There’s a certain poster who believes Ukraine post 2013 is completely organic and the US intel agencies weren’t involved at all.

Edit: found him
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 11:03 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
108978 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:03 am to
USAID was there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475609 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

SFP says they were just there by coincidence on vacation

I never said that.

Again, Yanukovych did something highly unpopular both with the population and Rada. He FA'd by allying with Russia and FO organically from both the population (Maidan revolution) and Rada (changing the Constitution and then removing him).

What I posted I can cite factually with multiple sources.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18687 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:08 am to
quote:

never said that. Again, Yanukovych did something highly unpopular both with the population and Rada. He FA'd by allying with Russia and FO organically from both the population (Maidan revolution) and Rada (changing the Constitution and then removing him). What I posted I can cite factually with multiple sources.



Wut?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97583 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:15 am to
SFPs mad Crimea and Donabs voted 97% russian in 2014
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16293 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I never said that.


USAID WHAT
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:17 am to
There was money to be made.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475609 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Wut?


The population of Ukraine and Rada (over 90% support) supported EU integration in 2013.

Yanukovych chose to reject EU integration and sign an incredibly unpopular trade deal with Russia in December of 2013.

In response, the population responded with the Maidan revolution and the Rada voted to change the Constitution to oust Yanukovych by vote, in February of 2014.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18687 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:20 am to
quote:

The population of Ukraine and Rada (over 90% support) supported EU integration in 2013. Yanukovych chose to reject EU integration and sign an incredibly unpopular trade deal with Russia in December of 2013. In response, the population responded with the Maidan revolution and the Rada voted to change the Constitution to oust Yanukovych by vote, in February of 2014.


All completely organic while every neocon warmonger was there to cheer it on in 2014.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:20 am to
Klobuchar has also been working with people in the UK to subvert our First Amendment.

Fatass Nuland was handing out cookies in Ukraine.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18299 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:24 am to
quote:

He FA'd by allying with Russia and FO organically from both the population (Maidan revolution) and Rada (changing the Constitution and then removing him).

What I posted I can cite factually with multiple sources.


Here we were thinking you were just a fool, when it turns out you're actually a liar.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475609 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:25 am to
quote:

All completely organic while every neocon warmonger was there to cheer it on in 2014.


And Obama was specifically against military intervention. Trump is now adopting the Obama policies on Ukraine.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13488 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:29 am to
SFP is simply a bot for the pro-Ukrainian bs. He pushes the party line that it was completely organic and that magically because the people were upset with rejecting what was actually not a great deal for Ukraine with the EU, but somehow that was it.

Forget that normalizing relations with Russia actually was a better approach to a mor stable and prosperous Ukraine. Screw that, they wanted to be used as a buffer for the EU against Russia instead.

But hey, SFP stated the story that was being fed to everyone as fact.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12161 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:32 am to
It’s funny how this board needs to redefine Ukraine on a daily basis. No, this is the REAL reason!

But we already know all about Yanukovych.
And Trump has already asked Paul Manafort what happened, as he was there at the time.

Just don’t expect Manafort to be very forthcoming with factual information to the public, because he was doing Russia’s bidding.

LINK
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23438 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:34 am to
quote:


In response, the population responded with the Maidan revolution and the Rada voted to change the Constitution to oust Yanukovych by vote, in February of 2014.


With USAID NGO's help in funding the organization and propaganda.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475609 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Forget that normalizing relations with Russia actually was a better approach to a mor stable and prosperous Ukraine.




quote:

they wanted to be used as a buffer for the EU against Russia instead.

A buffer? You're confusing NATO with the EU.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:35 am to
quote:

SFPs mad Crimea and Donabs voted 97% russian in 2014


Ah yes, just as Putin always wins with 90%+ of the vote.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 4Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram