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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:37 pm to SammyTiger
quote:I was wondering about the government that allows all abortions and recognizes 16 forms of marriage, but does not spend any public money on either one. Left or Right?
How do you feel about a party that believe in no property rights and no government?
Are they left because economically there is no private ownership or are they right because they believe in no government control?
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:38 pm to Penrod
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Do you think Franco was not right wing? He had the same sort of economic state control that Hitler espoused. To say that Franco, or Hitler, was not right wing is bizarre.
What’s bizarre is to hear someone equate state control and the right side, when state control is essentially a pillar of the left. The people or workers being in control is leftist utopian bullshite, as we all know.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:40 pm to SammyTiger
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no property rights and no government?
frick em.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:40 pm to troyt37
It’s bizarre that you would consider an Monarchy leftist.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:41 pm to troyt37
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The people or workers being in control is leftist utopian bullshite, as we all know.
Yeah, you can't continue to associate everyone who disagrees with communism to radical right wing white supremacist ideology and then push increasing authoritarian control in the name of communism.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:42 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s bizarre that you would consider an Monarchy leftist.
Its both.
You leftists have been programmed to believe liberalism is leftist.
The left has abandon liberalism.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You leftists have been programmed to believe liberalism is leftist.
You’re programmed to believe the right can’t be totalitarian.
And you’re an idiot.
You would argue anarcho-socialists are right wing.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:49 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re programmed to believe the right can’t be totalitarian.
The alt right are socialists and willing to do whatever it takes to push their views. If you want to assume they are right wing because it helps you sleep at night great. How does what they're pushing differ practically from what the Dems are pushing inthis country
That being said, for years, I've seen conservatives both in the media and in discussion forums push back against the alt right. Where is that push back from Dems against the totalitarians taking over your party?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Answer the question.
No government control. No property rights.
Is anti-government hippy commune left or right?
No government control. No property rights.
Is anti-government hippy commune left or right?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:49 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re programmed to believe the right can’t be totalitarian.
Absolutely not.
One big difference between right and left, you people are in a cult and deflect and defend like your life depends on it.
Those on the right criticize themselves constantly. You people are the literal hive mind.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Hugely ironic coming from a guy who’s called Nazis and Monarch’s left wing.
You ignored my question about anarcho-socialists.
Your have a fricking major blind spot.
You ignored my question about anarcho-socialists.
Your have a fricking major blind spot.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:53 pm to AggieHank86
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I'm a self proclaimed conservative minarchist. I'd put myself somewhere in the neighborhood of Reagan and Gingrich up there. ^^^
That's pretty damn far away from Stalin and Hitler, though the typical dim would claim I'm sitting on Stalin's lap with my mouth on Hitler's lap.
Many modern leftists don't even realize that I'm way closer to Bill Clinton than the antichrist. On that chart, they're actually somewhere between Khomeini and Stalin... making them LITERALLY HITLER!
The irony.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:53 pm to DolphinDaddy
OP, read THIS article. It explains clearly the answer to your question.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:53 pm to DolphinDaddy
Not all far rights are nazis but most nazis are far right in their political beliefs
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:03 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:The typical Dem does not understand 2-dimensional political analysis any better than the typical GOP voter (as demonstrated in this thread).
I'd put myself somewhere in the neighborhood of Reagan and Gingrich up there. ^^^
That's pretty damn far away from Stalin and Hitler, though the typical dim would claim I'm sitting on Stalin's lap with my mouth on Hitler's lap
I take this test every year or two, just for fun. I always chart at the nape of Jefferson's neck (barely Right of Center). As the GOP inches closer to Pat Buchanan, it is distressing to think that (without moving myself) my politics are slowly looking to be closer to Billy Jeff than to the GOP mainstream.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:05 pm to squid_hunt
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Well if Vox says it...
Here's what Vox said
quote:That's fairly cut-and-dry. Hitler was a socialist, both by definition and by his own account. The Nazi's were a socialist party.
In Hitler’s version of National Socialism, socialism was “Aryan” and focused on the “commonwealth” of everyday Germans — a group of people he unites as one based entirely on their race. In that same interview with Viereck, Hitler added:
“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common wealth. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic... We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfillment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one.”
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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One big difference between right and left, you people are in a cult and deflect and defend like your life depends on it.
Those on the right criticize themselves constantly.
You may want to sit down and learn about a cult figure on the right known as Donald J Trump.
Some people on the right are so devoted to him they're going to vote for him again. It's some strooooong kool-aid.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:20 pm to DolphinDaddy
FDR was infatuated with Mussolini.
Just because Hitler fought other left wing ideologies does not mean he was not left wing.
It is pretty typical for like ideologies to fight. Think of history, Sunni vs Shia, Catholics vs Protestants are a couple of examples.
Don't let the history re-writers make you believe the oppostie of the truth.
Just because Hitler fought other left wing ideologies does not mean he was not left wing.
It is pretty typical for like ideologies to fight. Think of history, Sunni vs Shia, Catholics vs Protestants are a couple of examples.
Don't let the history re-writers make you believe the oppostie of the truth.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:20 pm to DolphinDaddy
Nazis = socialist party = democrats
They’re liars period
They’re liars period
Posted on 5/16/22 at 3:28 pm to BamaAtl
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You may want to sit down and learn about a cult figure on the right known as Donald J Trump. Some people on the right are so devoted to him they're going to vote for him again. It's some strooooong kool-aid.
You’re an idiot. Couldn’t possibly be the $1.89 gas, or record unemployment for all demographics, or no new wars for our men and women to bleed and die for, or stemming the tide of the invasion at our southern border, or moving the needle toward returning US manufacturing, or making Europe fund European security. Nope, just a cult.
You want to find a cult, look at the people who fawn over the only man in this country to ever be president, with even less substance than Jimmy Carter, one Barry Soetoro.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 3:30 pm
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