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re: This is no longer about the virus..
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:22 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:22 pm to Korkstand
“The data is the source. Pure and not filtered“
Like I said you have no business calling other people delusional.
“ You brought your siblings into this. For what reason, I don't know. But you did it.”
Not true, you said I brought them in to lean on their numbers. The truth is I mentioned them because you made a false assumption of me repeating “news sources”. The fact is the numbers vary and we don’t know and I know that because people who’s job it is to be more certain than us will tell you we don’t know the real numbers.
You’re a clown
Like I said you have no business calling other people delusional.
“ You brought your siblings into this. For what reason, I don't know. But you did it.”
Not true, you said I brought them in to lean on their numbers. The truth is I mentioned them because you made a false assumption of me repeating “news sources”. The fact is the numbers vary and we don’t know and I know that because people who’s job it is to be more certain than us will tell you we don’t know the real numbers.
You’re a clown
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:31 pm
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:24 pm to Korkstand
“First, how do they have the time to even begin to examine the extent of infection? And second, are they more overworked than usual?”
Wow you’re just an ignorant puppet spewing fake news and bullshite. How do they have time? To do their fricking job you mean? What are you retarted?
Wow you’re just an ignorant puppet spewing fake news and bullshite. How do they have time? To do their fricking job you mean? What are you retarted?
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:25 pm to mostbesttigerfanever
Its happening all over the world. Not just here.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:27 pm to GaDawg9977
Open up the country immediately and kick the fearmongering scientists to the curb. We operate under the constitution in this country, not embarrassingly inaccurate scientific models.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:31 pm to Madking
quote:Because I believe that health departments around the country and world are publishing data that is as accurate as possible? That is delusion, in your mind?
Like I said you have no business calling other people delusional.
quote:So where are you getting your information, then? News sources, or your siblings? Or some other source entirely? You keep beating around the bush and not saying anything at all. You just say this, that, and the other thing, and then jump my arse when I take what you say at face value. It's a very simple question, but you refuse to answer it. Why, I wonder?
Not true, you said I brought them in to lean on their numbers. The truth is I mentioned them because you made a false assumption of me repeating “news sources”.
quote:Are you talking about your siblings again?
The fact is the numbers vary and we don’t know and I know that because people who’s job it is to be more certain than is will tell you we don’t know the real numbers.
quote:
You’re a clown
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:33 pm to Korkstand
Seriously you’re either a child or you started drugs at a young age and your brains development was stunted. 3 times already you’ve argued something then immediately did a 180 in the next post to discredit your own point. Please keep talking you’re burying yourself.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:35 pm to Madking
quote:Their job is to take care of sick people, is it not? Compiling and analyzing data, estimating infection and mortality data, studying the impact of a pandemic on various locales, etc. are areas of expertise completely unrelated to the fields involved in front line health care.
Wow you’re just an ignorant puppet spewing fake news and bullshite. How do they have time? At their ducking job you mean?
quote:
What are fricking retarted?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:38 pm to Korkstand
“Because I believe that health departments around the country and world”
The previous statement: “You said you get your covid info from health care professionals”
Lmao!!! You can’t make this stuff up
The previous statement: “You said you get your covid info from health care professionals”
Lmao!!! You can’t make this stuff up
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:40 pm to Korkstand
So it’s obvious you have no clue what being a Dr. entails and you have no clue how that system operates. You think these people go door to door with a black bag and stethoscope handing out aspirin waiting for CNN to direct their next move lol. Maybe educate yourself instead of parroting MSM and leftist talking points.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:42 pm to Seldom Seen
Truest statement I’ve read on here.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:44 pm to Madking
quote:
Seriously you’re either a child or you started drugs at a young age and your brains development was stunted.
quote:You are talking in circles. I'm getting dizzy doing all these 180s trying to keep up with your BS.
3 times already you’ve argued something then immediately did a 180 in the next post to discredit your own point. Please keep talking you’re burying yourself.
You said you don't get info from news, rather you get it from your siblings. Then you said you don't get info from your siblings because they're too tired and overworked, but you didn't go so far as to say you get info from the news. And I still have no idea where you get your info. All you will imply is that for whatever reason it is more reliable and truthful than any data that the rest of us have access to.
I usually play along with trolls like yourself for entertainment value, but your schtick is too repetitive and no longer entertaining. You should switch it up.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:45 pm to Korkstand
“Because I believe that health departments around the country and world”
I’m sure Chinas health care department is atop that list. China thanks you for being one of the millions of useful idiots.
I’m sure Chinas health care department is atop that list. China thanks you for being one of the millions of useful idiots.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:46 pm to Korkstand
“You are talking in circles. I'm getting dizzy doing all these 180s trying to keep up with your BS. “
The most ironic post of the day
“You said you don't get info from news, rather you get it from your siblings.”
More make believe and proof of dishonestly. You’ve said repeatedly I have divulged where I get my info from yet you’ve claimed I’ve admitted it comes from 2 separate sources at odds with one another.
When you find yourself standing inside a 12 foot hole the first thing you should do is stop digging.
The most ironic post of the day
“You said you don't get info from news, rather you get it from your siblings.”
More make believe and proof of dishonestly. You’ve said repeatedly I have divulged where I get my info from yet you’ve claimed I’ve admitted it comes from 2 separate sources at odds with one another.
When you find yourself standing inside a 12 foot hole the first thing you should do is stop digging.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:47 pm to Madking
quote:Clearly you don't understand the difference between anecdotes from two individuals and data compiled from thousands of individuals.
“Because I believe that health departments around the country and world”
The previous statement: “You said you get your covid info from health care professionals”
Lmao!!! You can’t make this stuff up
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:51 pm to Madking
quote:So tell me, what qualifies your siblings to be the definitive sources of interpreting the data related to this pandemic? Or is your story still that you do not actually get covid information from them, but rather you only mentioned them as a deflection?
So it’s obvious you have no clue what being a Dr. entails and you have no clue how that system operates.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:53 pm to Madking
quote:China's data is completely ignored. Even mentioning that exposes your bias.
I’m sure Chinas health care department is atop that list. China thanks you for being one of the millions of useful idiots.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:56 pm to Korkstand
Again you don’t have an objective argument so you continue to twist my statements to a different meaning.
The fact is we have no idea how many people are infected so we have no idea the death rate. Only the sickest people are tested so that death rate is inflated yet you claim to have “raw unfiltered exact data”. Even in small easy to test areas we have no idea. We even have testimony from Drs. In large areas that they’ve logged non Coronavirus deaths as Coronavirus deaths. You can twist and parse words and phrases all you like but your argument is so ignorant you can’t even get to the starting point.
The fact is we have no idea how many people are infected so we have no idea the death rate. Only the sickest people are tested so that death rate is inflated yet you claim to have “raw unfiltered exact data”. Even in small easy to test areas we have no idea. We even have testimony from Drs. In large areas that they’ve logged non Coronavirus deaths as Coronavirus deaths. You can twist and parse words and phrases all you like but your argument is so ignorant you can’t even get to the starting point.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:56 pm to Madking
quote:No, I have repeatedly asked why you refuse to divulge your source of info. And you still won't answer!
More make believe and proof of dishonestly. You’ve said repeatedly I have divulged where I get my info from yet you’ve claimed I’ve admitted it comes from 2 separate sources at odds with one another.
I have been nothing but transparent about things, and you have been the exact opposite. Then you keep calling me dishonest.
quote:Agreed.
When you find yourself standing inside a 12 foot hole the first thing you should do is stop digging.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:57 pm to Korkstand
So you’ve completely abandoned the argument and have been reduced to pure phony allegations. You always end up here and it’s telling. Should’ve stopped when at least you had an ignorant option.
The very language you use to make basic points is totally pure BS. You call guesses “100% fact” you call political numbers “unfiltered raw data” you make conflicting unsupported assumptions then assign both slanders to the same point. You can’t even get your argument off the ground.
The very language you use to make basic points is totally pure BS. You call guesses “100% fact” you call political numbers “unfiltered raw data” you make conflicting unsupported assumptions then assign both slanders to the same point. You can’t even get your argument off the ground.
This post was edited on 4/12/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 6:14 pm to Madking
quote:But you refuse to simply say what you mean!
Again you don’t have an objective argument so you continue to twist my statements to a different meaning.
quote:But we do have an idea. Iceland has tested a huge percentage of their population. Their infection rate seems to be about 5%. This is expected to be lower than average due to their low population density. Still, since they have tested so many people, they have likely caught more of their actual cases than most other countries. Their fatality rate is 0.47%. The Diamond Princess data suggests an infection rate of nearly 20% in densely population areas. The fatality rate here is 1.5%, which is admittedly high due to the age skew aboard the ship. We also have a study of randomly tested people in a German town that was a hot covid area, and they tested for both current infections and recovered cases with antibodies. The infection rate was 15%, and fatality rate about 0.4%.
The fact is we have no idea how many people are infected so we have no idea the death rate.
These data sets combined give us a pretty good idea of how many people might actually be infected. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. But it is significant, and it is the best estimate that we currently have. This data also suggests that for every positive test in the US, there are likely 10 more cases that have not been detected. In other words, infection is 10X more widespread than the raw data suggests. This is the number the recent models are using to estimate the fatality rate at somewhere in the 0.3, 0.4, 0.5% range.
quote:Yep, the 3% nCFR numbers are inflated. If you'd bother to listen to me, this is accounted for and estimated via data that suggests the true rate of infection is 10X higher.
Only the slickest people are tested so that death rate is inflated
quote:Nice throwing "exact" in there, you fricking liar. I have never once claimed that my numbers are anything close to exact. In fact, it has been pointed out by yourself and numerous other posters how many qualifying words I have used, such as "likely" and "suggests" and "estimated", etc. I have acknowledged this quite openly and honestly, and given the reason for it.
you claim to have “raw unfiltered exact data”.
quote:I am not twisting anything at all, though you very obviously are.
You can twist and paste words and phrases all you like bit your argument is so ignorant you can’t even get to the starting point.
"Exact"
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